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Old 12-11-2013, 01:26 PM   #1
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Soundcloud VIP ebook??

http://soundcloudvip.com ...?


anybody bought and implemented this, or know anyone who has?

legit? worth it?


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Re: Soundcloud VIP ebook??

It's a decimal, not a comma. They're saying 10.000 plays, not 10,000 plays.

Also, it's a stupid idea. Unless you want to be really fucking popular on the internet. Woopie
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Re: Soundcloud VIP ebook??

It hurts reading that page & if you've ever read a pyramid scheme brochure...it's the same b/s language.
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We can’t guarantee the low price of $37 for Soundcloud VIP for much longer though. Our members are concerned that if our system becomes too accessible, they might not be able to continue gaining so much exposure to their tracks. Some members believe the price should be at least $97 so you must act fast to lock in your savings.
Yeah sure whatever ffs.

Look - there's plenty services out there where you can pay for listens. And what I suspect will happen is you're gonna buy this pdf and it's gonna tell you to go try out those services, which is exactly what they're promising: teaching you ways of increasing your plays/listens/likes.

Go check out cloudkillers - if you take the time to get involved you can get a fair amount of plays/likes/listens. They offer free and paid bundles. Loads of similar services out there.

Why are you looking to get 60billion likes/plays/listen btw? Are you thinking of approaching a label / trying to get live gigs or something?

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Old 12-11-2013, 01:57 PM   #4
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Re: Soundcloud VIP ebook??

i did test out one of those paid services... had my suspicions and confirmed - pretty sure that all the listens, likes, comments, and followers coming from accounts created by the marketing company, as none of them had any music of their own.

not interested in 60 billion likes, lol... but, the wider the exposure if you're putting out good music, the better the foundation and more opportunities down the road if you play it right... (and of course, cuz part of the purpose of making music is to spread good vibes, for it to be heard & enjoyed)

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Re: Soundcloud VIP ebook??

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i did test out one of those paid services... had my suspicions and confirmed - pretty sure that all the listens, likes, comments, and followers coming from accounts created by the marketing company, as none of them had any music of their own.
Does it matter? I mean - if your goal is to get huge movement on your stats and you're paying for it - what does it matter if you get 2000 listens from a marketing company's accounts or actual users? I think even with the majority of services where the listens don't come from marketing accounts - they're still just forced listens / people skimming your track, clicking a button and moving on.

Again - check out http://www.cloudkillers.com/. It might be what you're after as it's a bit more human than some of the other options.
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Re: Soundcloud VIP ebook??

Cloudkillers does look interesting, some real value as IS human... the others are crap. stats themselves don't matter - only as a measurement tool of how many people the music is actually reaching...

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Old 12-11-2013, 03:05 PM   #7
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Re: Soundcloud VIP ebook??

Cloud Dominator was another, i read an article about a Artist who used Cloud Dominator to get over 30K plays in a couple of days along with thousands of favourites and comments .... He ended up getting his track onto Beatport and actually making some money off it ! Article link - http://www.5chicago.com/features/apr...oud-superstar/

Personally i disagree with it, i would rather have 10 real comments and 200 real listens, than 10000 fake ones ... Knowing someone has taking time to listen, favourite or comment on something ive made is a much better feeling than appearing "internet famous" !

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mmm... i agree, better to have real comments & listens... big numbers might look impressive, but its a false front. might work for some to get an end result, but is such a tactic keeping one's integrity...? for each their own to decide, I suppose, though I'd rather focus on working to build something of substance than paying to convey a misleading image...

Cloudkillers is an interesting concept, though... not bad extra benefits too - if a DJ, is a way of scanning through new music to find something new; and for producers, can be a quick way to refine your ears and pick apart others' productions to what works & doesn't, developing greater skill if you take time to clarify and share...

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mmm... i agree, better to have real comments & listens... big numbers might look impressive, but its a false front. might work for some to get an end result, but is such a tactic keeping one's integrity...? for each their own to decide, I suppose, though I'd rather focus on working to build something of substance than paying to convey a misleading image...

Cloudkillers is an interesting concept, though... not bad extra benefits too - if a DJ, is a way of scanning through new music to find something new; and for producers, can be a quick way to refine your ears and pick apart others' productions to what works & doesn't, developing greater skill if you take time to clarify and share...
Do it the legit way, buying 10,000 followers etc doesn't mean 10,000 people listened to your stuff. Remember you're creating music, the whole point of it is for people to listen to it. If people aren't pressing play there's something wrong on your end. If a bot presses play 2000 times, its the equivalent of playing a guitar on the moon while 2000 people on earth give you a hand signal that says yeah dude, I can totally hear you. There's no air on the moon......nobody heard a damn thing you played.

Also that song you have with almost 6,000 plays and 52 comments and 2 reposts......when your other songs have 14 and some odd hits....that kinda stuff doesn't make sense. 5,000 plays and nobody gave enough fucks to play the other tracks you have?

Stuff like that is what I'm talking about. Go legit, or it just kills your credibility. Cloud killers is legit, people have to actually listen to your song, who cares if its other musicians, musicians are fans of music too. Comments aren't just haphazard spam, people will find interesting circular ways to tell you if your track sucks or is missing something. Remember when I said if people aren't pressing play there's something wrong on your end. Cloud Killers is a great way to find out just how much you suck or not.

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Re: Soundcloud VIP ebook??

amen, Planetside. completely agreed.

quite far off the original topic though - which was the ebook, and whether it offers LEGIT ways of helping market to REAL people... lol

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amen, Planetside. completely agreed.

quite far off the original topic though - which was the ebook, and whether it offers LEGIT ways of helping market to REAL people... lol
Its gonna tell you the same shit you'll find all over the internet already, there are no secrets. The book they're trying to sell is the same as any other "Hey look at this guy, he used to only pack 2 inches of man meat, then he got our book and learned the SECRETS" "Now he's got over 12 inches of man meat. Wanna be like him?" "Buy our bullshit for whatever the fuck money we're charging to show you the secrets to gaining INCHES!"

Its bullshit.

The music industry is still as hard to break into now as it was 20 years ago, its still owned by the same corporate heads. They still dictate what people listen to, they still write the checks, they still make the pay offs, they still make sub labels so you don't know its them and then say the sub label is independent when its obviously owned by warner bros. >_> I'm not gonna name any names, but from that description its obvious what label I'm talking about and which major corporate check writer owns it.

There are no secrets to breaking into it. There are no secrets to getting 1 million plays unless you do something witty like I dunno the what does the fox say video, or something dumb like 800% slowed down justin beiber. Some off the wall type of shit that nobody was thinking of at the time except you, then jump on the boat and cash in the idea quick for that 1 month to 1 year of success. It'll be a fun ride but.....don't plan your retirement yet.

Overnight success especially with music takes 10-15 years. Doesn't matter what type of music you were doing in those years, it just takes that many years to get a leg up on wtf is going on what to expect, and whats been done.

After that, if you want success the internet is the last place you should be looking because nobody buys beer and pulls it out of their screen. Nobody gets lucky finds a topless computer screen screaming and takes it to their room later for woopie, nobody jumps around their room and gets all sweaty and full of molly and has their computer drive them home while their cpu talks about how wild of a night they had. Nobody makes finger hearts with their screen and takes cell phone pictures and posts them back onto the internet talking about "WOW PLUR best show ever!"

If you want success you need people to be successful real fleshly people. Not internet friends. Real friends you can punch in the shoulder, followed by real fans you can shoot champagne bottles at, followed by a real stage, where real people spend real money to see you. You wanna market to real people, go outside and play your music to real people.

Doesn't matter what you do on soundcloud unless you plan on working a movie studio or some low key in house only type of work with what you produce you're wasting your time chasing plays. As a matter of fact, you'd be wasting your time chasing plays even as a movie soundtrack guy just due to the fact that the movie industry doesn't care how many plays your song has because after the movie is done they're going to be the only reason any body googles Hans Zimmer anyway.

True fact, there are people out there with terrible soundcloud plays and followers, but they're more successful than people on soundcloud with 30,000 followers and thousands of plays because they're actually relevant. They play shows, they're local, they do tours, they get paid. You can get beatport top 100 all day long, at the end of the day the sales off that chart are barely enough to cover most mainstream artists expenditures. They don't make money from selling CD's. Tiesto doesn't give a shit about his beatport revenue. Tiesto gives a shit about selling out arenas for 300 dollars a ticket.
Skrillex doesn't care about being listed in top 100 DJ's, Skrillex cares about booking a 5,000 dollar gig.

Hans Zimmer doesn't care about his twitter following or how many times he's been googled or how many plays he has on soundcloud. Hans Zimmer cares about whens the next big action movie with Leonardo Decaprio so he can get his (insert random amount of monopoly money here).

Soundcloud is a holding space, a gallery. If you can't apply your work you can have the highest played song on soundcloud and it wouldn't mean shit if you're not moving out of your chair.

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"Soundcloud VIP", "Cloud Dominator"... Those names, ugh...

Here's what I've got:
Cloud Conqueror
Cloud Slayer
CloudPlaysHunter
InstantFameCloud
YOURAGODcloud
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At least I know that plays I get on my SC are actually real.

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"Soundcloud VIP", "Cloud Dominator"... Those names, ugh...

Here's what I've got:
Cloud Conqueror
Cloud Slayer
CloudPlaysHunter
InstantFameCloud
YOURAGODcloud
SoundWantToBeFamousCloud
MyMusicIsShitButIWantToBeFamousLikeGuettaCloud
LetsPretendThatPeopleCareAboutYourMusicCloud

At least I know that plays I get on my SC are actually real.
Lucky! My 10 per day are all fake. Is there a way to decrease your number of plays?
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As it is being discussed here I hope it is ok to post this If not, am sure an admin can remove... If anyone is interested in Soundcloud promotion / automation, then recommend you check out soundcloudmanager.com It has many uses from the aforementioned stats boosting / advanced search and filter options / manage multiple accounts / user interaction generation and everything else you could possibly want to promote your music on soundcloud. Obviously it isn't for everyone, as the negative comments towards similar programs / concepts have shown ;-), hell some are even outright hostile, but whatever, each to their own
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i did test out one of those paid services... had my suspicions and confirmed - pretty sure that all the listens, likes, comments, and followers coming from accounts created by the marketing company, as none of them had any music of their own.
Yep, these companies dispatch thousands of robot accounts to guarantee people will pay for their service. What's worse is that all of this straight up fabricates the experience of the websites they infest, creating a completely non-genuine "social media platform".

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Again - check out http://www.cloudkillers.com/. It might be what you're after as it's a bit more human than some of the other options.
Just tried that based on this thread. It's like chat roulette but with the same 12 shitty trap songs instead of penises

I think I preferred the penises.

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