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Old 02-10-2013, 08:32 PM   #1
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I think the genre section could be organized better. House and dubstep shouldn't be together, there's no place for hip hop/trap. I guess Glitch is always in IDM, but I don't think that's right. There could be a world section, maybe breaks.

I don't have answers, just suggestions

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Re: More Modern Genre Forum Names

Everyone always claims this, but House and Dubstep have quite a bit in common. Whether you are talking modern progressive/electro and brostep or old school house and deep dubstep.

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Old 02-10-2013, 08:39 PM   #3
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I think dubstep can be much more similar to Drum & Bass. Not only that but stuff like James Blake or most specifically Author is clearly very dubstep, but nothing like house... at all.

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Re: More Modern Genre Forum Names

what is brostep? Honest question. I am the most closed minded person when it comes to music I dont listen to normally, I dont even bother me bollox to google any of it. I also literally have no idea who/what is popular, I have my head stuck in the 90s and refuse to move on.

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Old 02-10-2013, 08:43 PM   #5
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what is brostep? Honest question. I am the most closed minded person when it comes to music I dont listen to normally, I dont even bother me bollox to google any of it. I also literally have no idea who/what is popular, I have my head stuck in the 90s and refuse to move on.
My impression: Early adopters of dubstep are upset about the way that popular dubstep progressed. Basically it's not complex, not dark and uses a lot of the really intense screamy sounds and pop verses, rather than the low rumble & wobble.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:45 PM   #6
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Re: More Modern Genre Forum Names

Dubstep began as instrumental b-sides of Garage tunes much like "Dub" b-sides on House records. Additionally, while Dubstep does now employ a lot of DnB sounds, the beat basic half-time beat is actually closer to House--its a four on the floor beat, missing some of the beats. Garage, House and Dubstep are all kind of related in a lot of ways.

Though I agree Dubstep also crossed over into DnB territory and a lot of DnB fans/producers/DJs ditched the DnB scene for Dubstep.

I honestly think Dubstep is a really interesting genre and spawned an interest in exploring all kinds of cross-over sounds and beats. Unfortunately what became the most popular is not representative of all the sounds out there. Most of it is still dance floor music, but there is a lot of headphone Dubstep as well.

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Old 02-10-2013, 08:52 PM   #8
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Yeah. Not trying to get into a flame war or anything, just talking it out.

You can go back in history to figure out exactly why things are sorted this way sure, but the forum is for people and the people who are interested in dubstep are not the same as are interested in house, so why are they going to same sub forum?

I think you'd have a better mix with house/minimal or house/industrial

Also the other suggestions, where would say Grammatik go? House Dubstep? Breakcore?
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Yeah. Not trying to get into a flame war or anything, just talking it out.

You can go back in history to figure out exactly why things are sorted this way sure, but the forum is for people and the people who are interested in dubstep are not the same as are interested in house, so why are they going to same sub forum?

I think you'd have a better mix with house/minimal or house/industrial

Also the other suggestions, where would say Grammatik go? House Dubstep? Breakcore?
grammatik = hip hop

personally I thought brostep was more of sub genre

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Old 02-10-2013, 09:17 PM   #10
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Re: More Modern Genre Forum Names

Yep. Just stating my opinion. Its probably not getting changed TBH. People ask all the time ;p

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Old 02-10-2013, 09:31 PM   #11
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How can I not stand house so much and like grammatik so much. Quite the conundrum
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:55 PM   #12
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Re: More Modern Genre Forum Names

Saying dubstep is like house is like saying dubstep is like Trance. Naaaaah!


Dubstep IS closer to Dub and DnB in terms of BPM and hoovers/reeces/reeses/wobbles.

All that filtering is a DnB type of thing and when the two combined we got DopeStep.

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and listen, man. Madonna's Vogue is more like House.

Minimal Techno is more like House which is more like Trance and Trance make ya stupid. LOL

Dubstep is more like The Orb of 1990s techno / downtempo / dub brought up to date.

Even Trent Reznor's tune "Me, I'm Not" is like Dubstep. And that AINT House. It's more like industrial. And electro industrial is typically with a hip-hop influenced beat, not a 4/4 bland house metronome of kick drums. hip hop and industrial and dnb and dubstep and dopestep rhythms have syncopation.

Syncopation is what separates the genres. That's even how they do it on Pandora.com if you read the music descriptions. DubStep is only like House if you are thinking only about some of Tipper's work. But Tipper is a musical genius and isn't House either. Tip-Hop (by Tipper) is more like trip-hop.

I totally agree with the original poster above that we need a more modern set of categories.

They really should go by the categories on SHOUTcast.com or Addictech.com Addictech.com is preferred. So that way we can get Chill, DopeStep, BreakBeat, Downtempo, House, Ambient, Illbient, Squee, and whatever.

Even SoundClick is a bit better about genres.

Deee-Lite had House influences. But Deee-Lite is not really house. But people who think it is must be the same people who put Madonna on my Deee-Lite pandora channel. Obviously, they didn't actually listen to the music or the musicians and just went by what they were told, probably about only a single hit tune and not the endless club hits that went on year after year and the wonderful remix albums. Even Madonna isn't really House, by the way. "Live to Tell" by Madonna is electronic, yes, as is "Borderline", but she's just not House. Even "Music" wasn't House, it was electro or Big Beat.

Sven Vath is more like House, or Haus to be exact.

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This is a groundbreaking new idea.

What exactly is EDM though?
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We need a hip-hop section!

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Can't tell if serious or trolling.
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Trolling. I've seen what the hiphop heads were up to on the MPC forum and promptly sold all my akai gear.

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