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Old 10-07-2017, 03:10 AM   #101
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Re: Why criticize someones art?

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Also, honestly, 90% (or more) of art that gets posted on the internet is mediocre at best. I never just blast people with a "that tune sucks dude.", most people really don't put in the effort to make something that will stand up to an audience more critical than you and your friends hanging out and listening to tunes in each other's studios.

I think its absurd that people just spooge the internet with their half baked tunes then feel entitled to praise. And lets be honest the OP and many others express their opinion in such way that they at least come off as entitled.

I totally respect someone who struggles, lives on a shoe string budget so they can "art". Great. But the struggle doesn't automatically make your shit good and I or anyone else has every right to kindly criticize it. Once you put something out into the ether, it kinda doesn't belong to you entirely anymore.

Get over it.

I say all this squarely identiying myself as the mediocre 90%. That is why I don't have a very active Sound Cloud. That is why I rarely post a tune to social media. It is why I don't plop every turd in my sig or the LB.
Respectfully, sincerely, lovingly request in the most beautiful way possible you edit out the LB from that otherwise spot-on post.

The LB..as we all know..is a place where anyone can share their WIPs..and get constructive feedback they need, in order to take their production skills the next level. Well, that's the ideal I guess.

When it comes to the LB, it's good to be mediocre and hungry to learn from the feedback you're given. Stuff posted there should be expected to be sub-par. So please feel free to post a couple of turds, dude..we'll help ya polish em..no worries.

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Old 10-07-2017, 03:21 AM   #102
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Re: Why criticize someones art?

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Respectfully, sincerely, lovingly request in the most beautiful way possible you edit out the LB from that otherwise spot-on post.

The LB..as we all know..is a place where anyone can share their WIPs..and get constructive feedback they need, in order to take their production skills the next level. Well, that's the ideal I guess.

When it comes to the LB, it's good to be mediocre and hungry to learn from the feedback you're given. Stuff posted there should be expected to be sub-par. So please feel free to post a couple of turds, dude..we'll help ya polish em..no worries.
Oh yea dude. I totally agree. I really meant that is why I don't do it personally. Not that I don't value critism for WIP, but these days I don't do that publically. I DM people for that stuff these days. I will edit my post to reflect this though.

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Old 10-07-2017, 03:40 AM   #103
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Oh yea dude. I totally agree. I really meant that is why I don't do it personally. Not that I don't value critism for WIP, but these days I don't do that publically. I DM people for that stuff these days. I will edit my post to reflect this though.
Yeah..I totally understood where you were coming from and what you meant..but a new blood mightn't.."Idiocracy" and all that..that's why I mentioned it.

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Old 10-07-2017, 08:34 AM   #104
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Respectfully, sincerely, lovingly request in the most beautiful way possible you edit out the LB from that otherwise spot-on post.

The LB..as we all know..is a place where anyone can share their WIPs..and get constructive feedback they need, in order to take their production skills the next level. Well, that's the ideal I guess.

When it comes to the LB, it's good to be mediocre and hungry to learn from the feedback you're given. Stuff posted there should be expected to be sub-par. So please feel free to post a couple of turds, dude..we'll help ya polish em..no worries.
I respectfully, sincerely, lovingly request that you don't ask people to edit their posts please.
Relic is a respected, long time member of this forum and his opinion is important, just like everyone else's.
I like where you're coming from but IDMf and the team can take the criticism on the chin.
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Old 10-07-2017, 11:00 AM   #105
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Re: Why criticize someones art?

there is a very obvious correlation between amateur work and the creator of said work being unable (read: self-important) to receive constructive or even offensive feedback. music is a language that goes beyond staves and drum patterns. if you're not using your music to connect with people and have a two way conversation then I don't really want to hear your music. people who take the time to hear your music are owed the opportunity to express their viewpoint on it even if it fucks you off your elitist high horse. not being open to that discourse makes you a dick, actually.

I love having my art criticized because it makes me better even if it's wanton haterade.

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I love having my art criticized because it makes me better.
This.

I recently had something pointed out in the LB which highlighted an area I had been neglecting out of sheer laziness and caused me to reframe some of my thinking. Useful crits are a treasure.

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Old 10-07-2017, 11:08 AM   #107
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oh dude yeah the hate posts directed me or this forum or the mod team literally make me hard. in my penis.

do not edit edit your posts, i want all of your delicious butt hurt.

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Old 10-07-2017, 02:39 PM   #108
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I respectfully, sincerely, lovingly request that you don't ask people to edit their posts please.
Relic is a respected, long time member of this forum and his opinion is important, just like everyone else's.
I like where you're coming from but IDMf and the team can take the criticism on the chin.
Fair enough..point taken. I didn't mean to offend or piss anyone off by posting what I did, but I see how it looks with hindsight. Relic, my sincere apologies for any offense or embarrassment I may have caused you and for any lines crossed.

I won't make the same mistake again.

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Old 10-07-2017, 02:53 PM   #109
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Its alright guys. I wouldn't want to discourage new members from posting in the LB over this discussion. : )

Edit: Also @Fid Pretty sure you aren't speaking to me...but I'm totally not butthurt about the LB in any way. I really need to make it over there more to listen/comment. :p

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Old 10-07-2017, 06:41 PM   #110
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I like how this thread has become gracious critiques of posting.
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:11 PM   #111
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I like how this thread has become gracious critiques of posting.
Haha. Just wait. It'll turn into something completely different next time it gets necro'd

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Old 10-07-2017, 08:38 PM   #112
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There is constructive criticism,and then there is i am better than you destructive criticism.
i will not tolerate any type of i am so special,rich ,better of any of this and i will personally make sure you are ashamed to ever post here again.this old man can't do that?'man before the great purge i was an absolute expert pest extermination expert.so test me spammerers elitest naysayers,just test me......
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:14 AM   #113
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There is constructive criticism,and then there is i am better than you destructive criticism.
i will not tolerate any type of i am so special,rich ,better of any of this and i will personally make sure you are ashamed to ever post here again.this old man can't do that?'man before the great purge i was an absolute expert pest extermination expert.so test me spammerers elitest naysayers,just test me......
I think you just need to calm it down a bit now Rambo.
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:04 PM   #114
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@all

ALL OF YOUR MUSIC IS HORSESHIT/BRILLIANT.

There.

Now move the fuck on.
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Re: Why criticize someones art?

I always always critique someone to help him. But I do understand critiquing him I hurted his feeling in 40% of the case. Oh, why is this smartass pretending to know everything, but I am honestly trying to help.

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Old 11-07-2017, 08:59 PM   #116
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Re: Why criticize someones art?

There is no such thing as art.

The function of art is to hold a mirror up to nature so there can be no art because the Universe is infinite which means there simply isn't a mirror big enough.

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Art is critique is art!?

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Re: Why criticize someones art?

All of the good answers have been on page one of this thread, which let's be honest, was never going to be a hit! The OP hasn't even posted in months, leading the reader to question the level of dedication he really has to his forum posting. Page 2 and 3 have been a complete letdown and I for one wouldn't contribute to a thread like this again. 1/8 Stars
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All of the good answers have been on page one of this thread, which let's be honest, was never going to be a hit! The OP hasn't even posted in months, leading the reader to question the level of dedication he really has to his forum posting. Page 2 and 3 have been a complete letdown and I for one wouldn't contribute to a thread like this again. 1/8 Stars
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Re: Why criticize someones art?

oh come on,cut the shit guys.the only reason to criticize is to make yourself feel better about your own shit.ie artist x sucks because im famous and say so,suddenly artistx is defamed made a mokery.and so on and so forth.thats the real world guys.

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