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Old 18-02-2017, 09:37 AM   #21
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Re: Beat Battle 00110010 - The IDM Roots subimssion

oh thx MFXxx, I sure hope it's inspirational indeed

I also wanted to say in the last bb, that I found all the subs awesome. This nice sample pack could lead to something similar in the realm of IDM. Lots of useful sounds in there for that purpose! Thanks!

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oh thx MFXxx, I sure hope it's inspirational indeed

I also wanted to say in the last bb, that I found all the subs awesome. This nice sample pack could lead to something similar in the realm of IDM. Lots of useful sounds in there for that purpose! Thanks!
You're welcome. Im hoping for some quality IDM submissions on this BB and depending on how it pans out, I have an idea up my sleeve. But it is a very distant one atm.

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You're welcome. Im hoping for some quality IDM submissions on this BB and depending on how it pans out, I have an idea up my sleeve. But it is a very distant one atm.
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two questions what DAW do you use out of interest and what glitch effect are you using for the stutter?

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two questions what DAW do you use out of interest and what glitch effect are you using for the stutter?
The glitch is a mixture of simple cuts and dblue glitch 2 and gross beat.

I made a compressed video of me making a track in 15mins for fun and sport, two days ago, you can pretty see both my workflow and what DAW I use here, although it's speeded up a bit. I also use the open source LMMS DAW when on Linux sometimes.


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Eating popcorn at my own movie, what kind of an MJ am I. Hm.

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Old 18-02-2017, 01:04 PM   #27
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"3) The track must have two parts of different elements within the track."

The what must have two parts of different elements of what within the what?
Two moods perhaps? IDM takes you on a journey, through different scales that can conflict to suddenly resolve unexpectedly or contrast/compliment a previous arrangement, winding through a sonic experience unlike most other electronic genres.

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Two moods perhaps? IDM takes you on a journey, through different scales that can conflict to suddenly resolve unexpectedly or contrast/compliment a previous arrangement, winding through a sonic experience unlike most other electronic genres.

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3) The track must have two different elements or parts (aspects, characteristics, features) within the track, for example maybe one part is adagio in harmony and the latter maybe giocoso in dissonance. These are extreme examples to the track layout I had in mind.

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I'm sorry if this is clear for everybody, but basically the track has to have two contrasting parts?

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Thank fuck someone else asked first. Further simplification of point 3 required for me too.

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Old 19-02-2017, 12:17 AM   #31
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Re: Beat Battle 00110010 - The IDM Roots subimssion

The contrast in rule 3 is an example. Guys Im sorry but this is simple in my head, it just needs a change.

The best example I can think of (non IDM) would be Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen.

It could start low tempo and build high, or vice versa. It may start emotionally upbeat and finish merrily downbeat. It may start of in major key scale and change to a minor off key.

Not out to piss anyone off, but I dont think I can make it any simpler.

3) The track must have two different elements or parts (aspects, characteristics, features) within the track, for example maybe one part is adagio in harmony and the latter maybe giocoso in dissonance. These are extreme examples to the track layout I had in mind.


Adagio
A tempo having slow movement; restful at ease.

Harmony
Pleasing combination of two or three tones played together in the background while a melody is being played. Harmony also refers to the study of chord progressions.

Giocoso
A fun and joyful piece of music

Dissonance
Harsh, discordant, and lack of harmony. Also a chord that sounds incomplete until it resolves itself on a harmonious chord.

I want to make this as interesting, challenging and IDM possible. Makes this BB submission as if you were asked to submit it to a label for release. Sit back and be proud of what you produced

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Re: Beat Battle 00110010 - The IDM Roots subimssion

I downloaded a sampler and am giving this a try. So far, it's ugly, but this is my first time trying to manipulate samples so I expected that. I'll probably submit the finished product regardless.

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I'm sorry if this is clear for everybody, but basically the track has to have two contrasting parts?
It needs to have two parts. Part A. Part B. Those two parts need to be different.

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all right, nothing too crazy about that ha, ha.


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Not to piss anyone off, but I'd find it hard to make a non-solo piece without at least two contrasting elements, such as different instruments, different sections/patterns whatever. Before I start I just want to be sure what's actually required. It still seems vague and arbitrary...

Do you want it to be more than a single looping pattern containing a single instrument or sample, (of which you've supplied 50!) or would a single-sound loop be okay if it was expressed in two contrasting ways..? E.g. a Reichian phase cycle or tape loop kind of thing containing one sample/sequence played simultaneously at two different speeds, would that qualify?

Or a single loop/beat containing drums and a bassline - it has two parts, they contrast by virtue of sounding different and doing different things, would that qualify?

Or would it need to contain a theme that's given variation in different keys and moods?

Can we only have the one key change/contrast in the whole song, or can we have more than two chords/sequences/elements/whatever?

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Not to piss anyone off, but I'd find it hard to make a non-solo piece without at least two contrasting elements, such as different instruments, different sections/patterns whatever. Before I start I just want to be sure what's actually required. It still seems vague and arbitrary...

Do you want it to be more than a single looping pattern containing a single instrument or sample, (of which you've supplied 50!) or would a single-sound loop be okay if it was expressed in two contrasting ways..? E.g. a Reichian phase cycle or tape loop kind of thing containing one sample/sequence played simultaneously at two different speeds, would that qualify?

Or a single loop/beat containing drums and a bassline - it has two parts, they contrast by virtue of sounding different and doing different things, would that qualify?

Or would it need to contain a theme that's given variation in different keys and moods?

Can we only have the one key change/contrast in the whole song, or can we have more than two chords/sequences/elements/whatever?
If you haven't gotten it by now, I don't know what else to tell you.

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for Rule 3. It's simple. Make a track. Ensure that the track has variation somewhere within it, during it or throughout. It's not a hard and fast rule just recognisable for the listener as to what you have done. Queens Bohemian Rhapsody is the one example I think everyone maybe familiar with. BUT you do not have to follow that structure. The structure is down to you.
The 50 samples is to mark the BB50 and for you to audition, decide and shortlist for your track.
The IDM was suggested in the previous thread and a good idea in bringing this BB round to something meaningful.
Jaded has kindly escalated the thread to give it focus. It's always active and I as many others really would love to see new artists submissions and takes.



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In short. Just enjoy what you do and make some music. If you get a hum dinger track out of it all the better. After all...it's about the music. :*)

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