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Old 11-07-2017, 01:59 PM   #101
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I don't want people to be in a position of writing a new track and not having it used. Seems harsh and unfair for someone to put in that much extra effort over others with no guarantee.

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New idea.

No unauthorised copyright material to be used -
This will have to vrified by the original BB poster -
I would question if all had clearance. How recognisable and to what extent. IE A kick from a sample pack. Samples sourced from 3rd party websites. This I think will blow this project out. Can we get each contributor to verify?

No MP3, must be CD quality or higher (from original, not upscaled)-
I know a lot of samples have been mp3 so would've been upscaled. I have probably over 40-50 BB packs on my system, so happy to verify if and when required.

No individual to have more than 2 tracks submitted regardless of alias. (2 tracks per producer)
Not an issue

I have no idea who's won this the most tbh, but I figure they'll have a better handle on the library of music than me and a vested interest to keep this ticking over.
I'm saying 20 tracks with a view to making it 15, it could be 25 and 20, whatever.

What do you think?

Sounds good, but not sure how plausbible it is with samples sources and mp3s!

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Old 11-07-2017, 10:44 PM   #102
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I don't want people to be in a position of writing a new track and not having it used. Seems harsh and unfair for someone to put in that much extra effort over others with no guarantee.

I'm thinking more like:
I don't see how it'd be an issue, if someone decides to make a new track vs polish/finalize an old track, that's on them. That way the comp would be a competition in itself. Besides, I don't know how many tracks we'd have even including just past BB entrants. I don't see us having more than 20. Plus, it would help to make sure the tracks are uber-duber finished. Granted, the BB's are often kind of rough as they are, which is sort of its charm, but I don't see making tracks the best they can be, even beyond the original BB rules, being a loss.

I'm sure the top winners likely would include MFXxx and 7asid. I'd need glance at the past beat battles to be sure. I mean, I definitely want to see a release, so I'm not saying it has to be this way... I just think it'd be a neat comp/beat battle finale to really punctuate the way the beat battles are held.


My main question tho is will the track selections be limited to past winners? Because I feel like the winners have been kinda limited to a small group of individuals... with how beat battles are run i mean we really don't get THAT many votes, so I feel like the "winners" at times are kinda skewed by simply a lack of voting. When it's 1 vote vs 2... i don't really feel like it's representative of all members, hence why I suggested having any previous entrant have the opportunity to rework their entry to compete in a larger contest.

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Old 12-07-2017, 12:02 AM   #103
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We should consult the high council for this extraordinarily complicated issue.

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Old 12-07-2017, 06:57 AM   #104
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If that moves things forward, I am fine with it, but I am definitely not one of the ones who would then be voting. My participation in this whole thing would be limited to resending you a track if it happened to be selected.
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Re: Best of BB compilation

These are the kind of real hurdles we have to jump through though and now I'm a lot happier and better informed on the state of possible release from this project than I was 24 hours ago.

I'm not sure what to suggest tbh.
Perhaps going forward you should switch the BB rules up a little bit?
Seems a shame to have all that work out there but not a lot that's really usable to the label. (if that's what you're interested in)
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:03 AM   #106
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Re: Best of BB compilation

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These are the kind of real hurdles we have to jump through though and now I'm a lot happier and better informed on the state of possible release from this project than I was 24 hours ago.

I'm not sure what to suggest tbh.
Perhaps going forward you should switch the BB rules up a little bit?
Seems a shame to have all that work out there but not a lot that's really usable to the label. (if that's what you're interested in)
Now that is a pretty good suggestion. It has always been about having fun first, but what harm in making sure the efforts can be showcased? So some basic Copywrite clarity, submit Wavs not MP3s etc. that is what you mean right? Copywrite issues would then extend to the images used f.e. on SC for the tracks right?

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Old 12-07-2017, 03:14 PM   #107
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Re: Best of BB compilation

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These are the kind of real hurdles we have to jump through though and now I'm a lot happier and better informed on the state of possible release from this project than I was 24 hours ago.

I'm not sure what to suggest tbh.
Perhaps going forward you should switch the BB rules up a little bit?
Seems a shame to have all that work out there but not a lot that's really usable to the label. (if that's what you're interested in)
Well hold on, it says in the rules the samples should be only sounds the BB host has the right to distribute for non-commercial use. No one said anything about uncleared samples. And also, I don't see how having one or two samples that have been processed, diced, cut up and mangled having been originally in MP3 form being a serious detriment to their quality.

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Old 12-07-2017, 06:48 PM   #108
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Re: Best of BB compilation

BB50 is all manipulated sampling on my end, the samples can only sound similar to something that's out there (as is with anything really) I.e. I may have layered samples, and added fx before rendering them, clipping them and re rendering them.

I can't necessarily verify legality as I'm not a lawyer, but if what I've done is not above board I understand... Though I don't understand why we can't have a slice of the pie... Everyone makes totally different sounding tracks out of the samples, I can barely recognise them by the end of my processing let alone everyone else's... I say the music market's too saturated to care unless you're copying something from the top charts and no one's going to bat an eyelid... feign ignorance and tell them they're not the only ones who can make music... Unless its Kanye West, cos the man is music embodied (Haaaaaaaaaaa.... )

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Old 22-07-2017, 10:04 AM   #109
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Re: Best of BB compilation

Chatted to Oatbag yesterday and last night when I was done with my real world obligations for the day I posted something in mod room.

Might have something worth sharing. Emphasis on "Might". No promises.

Meantime, does anyone have the back catalog in one place or is it trawling time?

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Old 22-07-2017, 11:22 AM   #110
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Chatted to Oatbag yesterday and last night when I was done with my real world obligations for the day I posted something in mod room.

Might have something worth sharing. Emphasis on "Might". No promises.

Meantime, does anyone have the back catalog in one place or is it trawling time?
Hey Roo

Likely have to get in touch with all individuals. I know a lot of people may have not kept their master pieces. FWIW I am a library mogul, but that doesn't include other peoples work.

What I can see as a snap shop on the HD are the samples and my tracks for:

BB(2?),4,5,8,10(X),17,18,20,(21?),22,23,24,25,26,3 0,31,32,35,36,37,41,48,49,51,56,57,59,60
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Old 22-07-2017, 06:56 PM   #111
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Here's links to all the entry lists (or just the thread when one wasn't set up)... lots of missing entries, some still up tho:



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Old 06-09-2017, 12:04 AM   #114
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Heh, I was just thinking this was dead a few hours ago, but looks like it's got some more spasms left in it.

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Nope.
Dead I'm afraid.
At least for this year.

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Yep way to complex project for anything official. Source material quality and clearance would have me concerned plus quality vs quantity nightmare ;*)

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