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Old 05-05-2017, 08:18 AM   #1
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How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

both at home and outside, how to know when i listen too loud ? i almost never turn volume up above android safety warning, but does it do any good ? sometimes outside noise is as loud as music is it reasonable to turn up or it is just better to take off headphones when you cant hear music anyways ?

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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

I put a condom on each headphone just to be safe

Edit: If you're listening to music even near that safety warning (assuming it's a standard dB level and the same for everybody) that is incredibly fucking loud.

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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

I use an SPF meter app on my phone to measure how loud my speaker/headphones levels are. Around 85db is about the threshold of loudness before the human ear starts getting damaged. Tbh, I never listen to music super loud anyways. If the song sounds bad at low levels, then it's a shit mix. Thankfully, I haven't experienced a track that I like that sounds bad at low levels.

Some personal judgement is all you need to know if you're listening too loud, tbh.

Also, if your environment is too loud, I recommend getting some earplugs. The kinds construction workers use. I carry mine around and use them if I'm in a situation where things are too loud (like if there's an actual construction happening near by).

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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

is that app for android ? can you give link if so ?

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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

also one should keep in mind the louder the listening level in a room, the more the speaker set-up and peculiarities of the room and it's treatment or lack thereof comes into play.

For critical listening it is a good idea to switch between a lower and a higher level and primarily work with the lower level (less ear fatigue).
I remember a mixing engineer who used to play the track at the lowest possible level every now and then to see which instruments would still cut through.
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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

I used 80 db as my limit and a phone app (I think JL audio stereo analyzer) to measure as well for a few years, now I earball it. I set music just loud enough that I get the dynamics of the song and then pull it back a touch. Though bear in mind this is with full-range speakers or full size headphones, I haven't used earbuds in half a decade... I don't listen to music when out and about or even in my car unless I have the windows up and I'm in stop/go traffic. Otherwise, the background noise is loud enough, and indeed, to hear the music would be right at the fine line of danger. It's worth bearing in mind that sustaining music at 80 db, you'd have to listen for something like 5 hours for it to do permanent damage. The real danger with a good audio system is volume creep. The system doesn't distort when it gets loud, so you don't realize how loud it is and that you're hurting your ears, then hearing fatigue sets in. The music gets quieter, so without thinking, you reach over and turn it up a bit. Then a bit more a few minutes later. This goes on until your session's over, so discipline is key if you start a session near that 80 db limit. (I just reached over and turned the volume down on my headphones).

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Old 06-05-2017, 05:42 PM   #7
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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

volume creep is no problem since i never turn up even if i get used to, how to measure decibels on headphone ?

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Old 06-05-2017, 05:47 PM   #8
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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

I just hold my phone right up to the headphone, the app I used had a distance offset of how far you were measuring from the sound source, I set that to 0 when measuring headphones.

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Like Manowar said, men play at 10..

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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

not after tinnitus buddy ... not after tinnitus ...

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There is no life after tinnitus.

Actually, I took some GABA & glycine supplements and it got rid of mine in about a week.

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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

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I just hold my phone right up to the headphone, the app I used had a distance offset of how far you were measuring from the sound source, I set that to 0 when measuring headphones.
doesn't work, my phone has noise cancelling mic and it always shows around 70 decibels, to disable noise cancelling mic i should... see where is this going ?.. :'(

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There is no life after tinnitus.

Actually, I took some GABA & glycine supplements and it got rid of mine in about a week.
are you hinting im schizophrenic ?

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Re: How to listen music at safe levels ? discuss

I think for me regular breaks is the most important thing, in a producing, listening or live music environment it's nice to hear music loud enough to feel it. In production it can be important to mix at different levels, but also to listen to reference tracks at a consistent level. Just remember to stop every couple of hours!
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Headphones will damage your ears much more than speakers will. If you are worried about your ears, try to limit your use of headphones.
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There is no life after tinnitus.

Actually, I took some GABA & glycine supplements and it got rid of mine in about a week.
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Headphones will damage your ears much more than speakers will. If you are worried about your ears, try to limit your use of headphones.

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I think for me regular breaks is the most important thing, in a producing, listening or live music environment it's nice to hear music loud enough to feel it. In production it can be important to mix at different levels, but also to listen to reference tracks at a consistent level. Just remember to stop every couple of hours!

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Headphones will damage your ears much more than speakers will. If you are worried about your ears, try to limit your use of headphones.
doesnt it break down to how much energy is delivered to eardrum ? if i hear sound at same level as normal speech at 1m distance both in headphones and with speakers is there any difference ? can you explain how headphones damage more ? because ive been told this over thousand times and im still skeptical

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There are tables with DBs versus the safe hours of exposure. Cannot post links but found it useful
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doesnt it break down to how much energy is delivered to eardrum ? if i hear sound at same level as normal speech at 1m distance both in headphones and with speakers is there any difference ? can you explain how headphones damage more ? because ive been told this over thousand times and im still skeptical
Frequencies matter also. Having 40dBs of sub bass and 40dBs of everything else (=80dBs in total) being pumped into your ears is a lot more healthier than 70dBs of screechy midrange & high end sizzle and only 10dBs of low end.

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