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Old 11-08-2015, 10:34 PM   #21
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Re: "Can't polish a turd" myth

...and glitchhopforum?

Probably.

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Old 11-08-2015, 11:14 PM   #22
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Re: "Can't polish a turd" myth

Are we still discussing this?

If so... I have my own quote "there is no right way, just the right sound"

That being said...

Having much experience in graphic design, the idea was always to use the graphics with the best dpi (dots per inch) later pixles per inch. The more the better quality the original, the better quality the original, the more that could be edited , enlarged and so on.. the more you could save that file electronically as well.

Case in point, take a jpeg in any modern graphic software, photoshop etc... save it as a jpeg and at a low quality, do it again and again and again.. after maybe 5 times or so depending, the picture will be all fucked up quality wise. Pixalated and blurry.

I feel the same applies to recorded audio, you record a snare hit at a lesser quality bit depth, then save it again and again and edit and do this and that.. and it degrades the sound/file/recording.

Now does this mean you shouldn't do that? Again, there is no right way, just the right sound.

In fact, I purposely record/export at shitty bit depths to get glitchy shitty sounds, such as from a crappy old sampler or to get artifacts and coloration to my sounds for that old school lo-fi sound.

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Old 12-08-2015, 01:37 AM   #23
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just google the artist that used elephant dung

i don't even
Erm maybe I'm missing something. All I could find was a painter who used elephant dung as pigment in a painting. That's not an example of polishing a turd... Mainly because it's an example of someone applying pigment to a canvas AKA painting. I'd wager if you looked in any Renaissance museum you'd find a heap of paintings that use shit as pigment.

The saddest part is that every article trivialises the painting by leading with "painting made of elephant dung". The painting only holds a novelty value because it's mixed media with poo. I mean, even you reduced the whole work down to a piece of shit just to prove a point. Which it doesn't because it's not a piece of shit... And besides, even if it was, I'm pretty sure you can't polish an oil painting...
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Old 12-08-2015, 01:47 AM   #24
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And besides, even if it was, I'm pretty sure you can't polish an oil painting...
You can varnish them though. Helps to keep them preserved. You have to wait like 15 years or some bullshit for the paint to actually fully dry before you do it though.
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:56 AM   #25
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Re: "Can't polish a turd" myth

^ Okay. So let's get this straight then. According to you and me, the only way you could feasibly polish a turd is if you varnish it first. But you'd have to wait fifteen years for that shit to dry before it's safe to do so.

Fifteen years seems like a long time to have to wait just to polish a turd
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:45 AM   #26
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Fifteen years seems like a long time to have to wait just to polish a turd
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:03 AM   #27
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Pfff... no problem guys. You just need some of this and some elbow grease!

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Old 12-08-2015, 09:56 AM   #28
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^ You mean all of this fucking time...
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Old 12-08-2015, 11:07 AM   #29
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this was the jaded of all posts. LOL, you really went all out to point out the finer points of....
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Old 12-08-2015, 12:25 PM   #30
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Re: "Can't polish a turd" myth

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Erm maybe I'm missing something. All I could find was a painter who used elephant dung as pigment in a painting. That's not an example of polishing a turd... Mainly because it's an example of someone applying pigment to a canvas AKA painting. I'd wager if you looked in any Renaissance museum you'd find a heap of paintings that use shit as pigment.

The saddest part is that every article trivialises the painting by leading with "painting made of elephant dung". The painting only holds a novelty value because it's mixed media with poo. I mean, even you reduced the whole work down to a piece of shit just to prove a point. Which it doesn't because it's not a piece of shit... And besides, even if it was, I'm pretty sure you can't polish an oil painting...
Actually I wasn't even trying to make a point.

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^ Okay. So let's get this straight then. According to you and me, the only way you could feasibly polish a turd is if you varnish it first. But you'd have to wait fifteen years for that shit to dry before it's safe to do so.

Fifteen years seems like a long time to have to wait just to polish a turd
I don't know dude....:shitstorm:

what is this thread even about. Artistic expression?
I thought someone else already made the point a few posts back.

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Old 12-08-2015, 01:09 PM   #31
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:55 PM   #32
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Re: "Can't polish a turd" myth

so like we all realize that even if you polish a turd it's still a turd right. like if you polish one are you gonna put it between some bread with some mayo and eat it? shit I know I would, I'd wash it down with a nice cool Budweiser

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Old 12-08-2015, 04:01 PM   #33
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I'd wash it down with a nice cool Budweiser
you sir, are a fucking savage :snob:
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:47 PM   #34
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:48 PM   #35
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Re: "Can't polish a turd" myth

This riddle is easy, if you follow my turd-zen. If it's a turd, don't try to hide the turd within. Just accept the turd for what it is. Maybe even smear it around a little. Have fun with the turd, and when you show it to people, let them know it really is a turd. If they're expecting chocolate cake, they will definitely be able to tell the difference.
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:51 PM   #37
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Re: "Can't polish a turd" myth

It doesn't mean you literally can't.

It means that you can only do what you can do with what you have.

or GIGO or something idfk give me food you pleb

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let them know it really is a turd. If they're expecting chocolate cake, they will definitely be able to tell the difference.

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This is something I have been wondering for quite some time now, the "don't polish the turd myth"...

As a person who picks up pieces of garbage and things that look abandoned to make them into a family of similar pieces to become something beautiful, I have never really agreed with this way of thinking but maybe theres something important im missing (which is why im posting this thread). Anyway, I always find myself looking at parts that I didn't mean to record, usually subby bumps and clicks and slides and using those and it makes me think, why not polish a turd when you can just layer different parts of the waveform (transients, body's, tail's, etc) and process them individually to add/subtract attractive/unattractive frequencies? Is this type of mentality based on getting things finished in a hurry and that's why it's better not to spend too much time on these kinds of things?

What do you think?

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It really depends on the definition of turd and what you wanna achieve. You wanna make opera? Make sure the vocal is near flawless. Wanna make the kick sound better, then there is lots you can do.

You can make most things sound good though with enough processing unless its a bad performance even with a half assed performance you can cut and paste and layer different takes

And most samples wont work out the box in the tune you work on, so everything needs a little polish

I find making layers of anything just makes it always better. Just keep layering and resampling and test shit. The norm being having most layers on the chorus.

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I don't know dude....:shitstorm:

what is this thread even about. Artistic expression?
I thought someone else already made the point a few posts back.
I don't know either man. I kinda feel like things are heading towards talking about our feels...

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