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Old 29-05-2014, 06:05 PM   #1
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Layering sounds and sounds in tune

Hey guys,

So I am creating my own kicks, snares ect and I have a question when it comes to creating sounds in tune with each other. Ill use an example, say I have 3 samples for a snare, the low end, mid and top end.

The low end and top samples are in the key of G the mid sample is D, I would normally keep everything in tune but not always as I am creating what sounds good to my ear over anything else.

Now when I bounce these 3 samples together to create the final Snare sample seeing as the low end is in G will the Snare be in the key of G? with an overtone of D ?

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Re: Layering sounds and sounds in tune

It will be in the key of A minor, that's for sure.

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It will be in the key of A minor, that's for sure.
Or not, for sure.

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Or not, for sure.
Both G and D are in A minor, that's for sure.

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Re: Layering sounds and sounds in tune

Both G and D are also in G minor though
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Re: Layering sounds and sounds in tune

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Both G and D are also in G minor though
Indeed, and in G major aswell, etc.

Ok. Nevermind. OP: just check so that the snares are somewhat in phase. You can finetune each snare. Notch. You can just EQ dip one snare's dominant resonance and boost the other snare's dominant resonance. Etc, etc. Boost 200Hz alot, pretty narrow, until it breaks your limiter (or don't do that).
If it sounds good it sounds good.

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Re: Layering sounds and sounds in tune

Tbh, I think I end up not so much tuning my kicks as I end up detuning them. If you have your kick tuned to a note not in scale, it's far less likely to get phase cancelled, and it still sounds good. Unless it's one of those long ass trap kicks. Then you have to be careful with notes.

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Both G and D are in A minor, that's for sure.
And Bb, C, D (that's Am), F and G.

Three notes does not a key make. Functionally, it might help to choose one if you wished to include more notes...
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Re: Layering sounds and sounds in tune

for tuning to drums the best way to learn is a spectrum analyzer. Your kick drum should always be tuned to your root note(ie first bass note played)snares can sometimes sound cool a fifth above your kick, sometimes keeping them tuned to the same note as well. HHs same way, it's where creativity comes in!

don't focus on what key your snare is in, focus on if your snare works with everything else. If it's out of key it won't work. trust your ears, you'd be surprised on the creative tunings you can get!

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Re: Layering sounds and sounds in tune

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Hey guys,

So I am creating my own kicks, snares ect and I have a question when it comes to creating sounds in tune with each other. Ill use an example, say I have 3 samples for a snare, the low end, mid and top end.

The low end and top samples are in the key of G the mid sample is D, I would normally keep everything in tune but not always as I am creating what sounds good to my ear over anything else.

Now when I bounce these 3 samples together to create the final Snare sample seeing as the low end is in G will the Snare be in the key of G? with an overtone of D ?
The only resonant tone that really matters in terms of what "key" your snare is in is the tone in the 150-250hz range. Everything above that won't really clash with the other elements in your song. As always, trust your ears and if the snare sounds like it fits, then it does.
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Old 13-06-2014, 05:29 AM   #11
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Re: Layering sounds and sounds in tune

The easiest thing is to simply not design basses that clash with your kick in an obvious way. Does not need any musical training to detect when this happens. There are few genres that sortof grace clashing between the two, and if you get into them it is a mixing nightmare. Im not saying it cant be done, but i avoid it.

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