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Re: Celebrity culture and computer music.

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I don't know if you've followed most music scenes since before the year 2000 it's all been on a steady nose-dive into the garbage heap mostly except in deep underground circles.
I think you're being too kind to the underground

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Because of music piracy and illegal downloading, investors in the music and entertainment business in general have stopped taking any risk with new products, like in signing what you once knew as 'rock stars' (such as Ozzy Osbourne, or even Marilyn Manson, etc do not exist anymore). So there has been an enormous push of guaranteed investments, mostly over-blown productions and heavy emphasis on technological innovation and not so much artistic innovation, because that would be a risk.
I disagree with this. Piracy is not an issue. Remember, there's two industries when you talk about music: the recording industry, which is run by companies who sell recordings; and the music industry which is focused on the creation and reproduction of musical performances.

The idea that piracy has any effect on the music industry is a fabrication created by the recording industry. To put the music industry into context (albeit using old figures from 2006) the music industry consists of:

Music and event merchandising, concerts and touring and live performance = $25 Billion
Music publishing = $12 billion
Recording Sales (that is consumers buying CD, MP3, Vinyl etc) = $4 Billion

Of course, this doesn't cover the "pro music" industry, nor does it include every revenue stream (hip-hop "cultural" merchandise is a $40 billion industry). But it does demonstrate how small a piece of the pie record sales are.

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So we get lots of clones, copies, sequels, and so on that is technologically advanced but artistically it is more of the same.
You'll always have this phenomenon in any area of life in a market society.

Go back 1,000 years and there's examples in Europe of southerners copying Scandinavian sword designs to dupe people into thinking they were the real deal. But they weren't made of the same Arab steel and any decent soldier who picked on up and parried would know better than to buy. And shit soldiers would get duped and end up dead. If only this kind of thing happened to shit musicians.

It's like Ibanez's RX series, which were just Fender Strat clones with cheap bodies, shitty wiring and dollar pickups. Sure, plenty of people buy them. Sure, they're shit. But they're functional. And if someone starts using one and gets any good, well by that time, they'll know enough to make an informed decision for their next purchase.

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