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Old 16-05-2014, 01:22 AM   #1
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Good drum machine

What's a good drum machine, preferably analog, that I could buy for under $200? I know there is the korg volca beats, but that seems sorta cheap sounding. What I'd like to do is sync up my synths with the drum machine and jam. I'm looking to do this and record it for live performances. Thanks.

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Old 16-05-2014, 01:35 AM   #2
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Re: Good drum machine

How about the Roland boss Dr drum machines? The old ones like the boss Dr-5 can be bought for really cheap. Would it be easy to sync my synths up to that and jam?

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Those boxes aren't analog you know, right?

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Re: Good drum machine

The Volca is pretty much the only analog drum machine there is for that price. Next up would be the MFB 522...or you could wait and see what the Akai Wolf is like. Other than that you are looking at like spending 1K ish for an analog drum machine.

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Re: Good drum machine

So lets just say I want a good drum machine so that I can sync my synths up with it and jam...What would you recommend for less than $200?

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Those boxes aren't analog you know, right?
Yes I know the boss' aren't analog. I said "preferably analog"

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So lets just say I want a good drum machine so that I can sync my synths up with it and jam...What would you recommend for less than $200?
Have you considered machine mikro?

I'd say at the price range you have set buying something is only going to make you wish you had something else.

Or an Electribe maybe, but even then...

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Re: Good drum machine

Well, my advice would be to look into how many MIDI channels each drum machine has available and how many you need and then remember you might later add more gear.

I would tend to agree with RFJ if syncing your gear and playing it all from one surface is your goal I would go with a Maschine or Mikro.

If you are set on hardware the newest Electribes would be good. An SP would probably be fine but I would say you want atleast a 303 if not 404.

TR505 might make a really good hardware sequencer as well.

I do a lot with hardware from Maschine personally. Sure I would love a 1K hardware, no computer MIDI sequencer...but Maschine is such an elegant and powerful solution to sequencing.

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Re: Good drum machine

I just bought a Korg Volca Beats today and it's pretty sweet. It can be controlled and synced by midi and has 16 midi channels (as many as it has steps).
I set it up to be controlled by a drum rack in Live so I can make the patterns on my Push and use more than 16 steps and it works like a charm

I can also be ran on battery power which is a nice bonus.

Edit: I just realised you want to use the drum machine as the sync source and sadly it only seems to have a sync out for the other Volcas...

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occasionally zoom r8's sell for about 150 dollars on amazon. The sampler can be used for 8 one shot mono samples or 4 stereo samples or some similar combo of mono and stereo. It has input quantizing like a drum machine and that is editable. Sequencing can be recorded live or entered in steps. The steps can be edited and the playback can be mixed down to a stereo wav file with or without channel insert fx. The BPM can be edited or tapped. Unfortunately no MIDI but it can export or inport WAV files via USB. It stores on 2 to 32 GB micro SD cards. For making loop patterns and importing as WAV into a DAW it works well enough. Unfotunately, the R16 and R24 lack the sampler. The R8 also has a simple drum machine but it's not that great beyond 909 sounds. Also, the sample editing is severely lacking so samples should first be cleaned up in a DAW. PEACE i hope this is helpful

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i forgot to say that the R8 defaults to 16 bit 44.1 kz wavs and prjects but it can also do 24 bit 48 khz wavs. Projects cannot mix types.

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IMO thevolca beats doesn't sound cheap at all, and if you want something analogue it definitely has an analogue sound. It sounds a bit lofi in some respects but i really like it like that, guess that might not be for everyone, but dude if you want an analogue one the volca is undoubtedly the cheapest thing you'll find. If not, as I said in the studio pictures thread, the korg er1 is cheap as chips and capable of a huge range of tones
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Re: Good drum machine

If you can spare the cash, Analog Rytm from Elektron is a flagship drum machine and will work with the overbridge.

I heard some great things too of the Roland AIRA, if you are satisfied with only having the 808 - 909 sounds of course (maybe in the future they will expand the sounds?)

I have a Machinedrum from Electron and a Miami from acidlab, both are great drum computers and compliment each other well!
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What's a good drum machine, preferably analog, that I could buy for under $200? I know there is the korg volca beats, but that seems sorta cheap sounding. What I'd like to do is sync up my synths with the drum machine and jam. I'm looking to do this and record it for live performances. Thanks.
I used to do just that, and unfortunately drum machines are mostly a thing of the past, even when I was doing it back in the 1990s, I had to use drum machines from the 1980s.

There were a few good drum machines made in the 1990s, but I could never afford them back then and I haven't seen any of them around anywhere since then.

In particular, the Boss DR-series has pretty solid sounds.

But some of the earlier drum machines from the 1980s actually had good MIDI master or slave synchronization, assignable individual outputs, and kits and pads you could edit the parameters of for different sounds. A few of them had data faders so you could modulate the recorded results.

All of the good features you'd really want in a drum machine seem to have pretty much faded into history except for the AKAI MPC Series which itself has faded into history and is now a controller and software.

Even some of the early hard disk recorders had MIDI master and slave sync and good audio routing options, but I don't know of any modern flash recorders that have anything similar. Most modern stuff is OK at a variety of different tasks, but excellent at none of them.

There are a few exceptions in terms of drum machines, again. But most of those are still selling for inflated prices, such as the lesser AKAI sampling drum machine or the non-sampling drum machine. Sorry I forget the model names and numbers.

I really like drum machine workflow, so I looked into it a lot over the last few years. But there's really nothing there.

If you are willing to accept the limitations, something like FL Studio 11 or higher is about the best drum machine you will find for both step editing and recorded live input with quantization and editing options and a huge palette of sonic possibilities via samples or VSTi's. But of course it's software and comes with all the headaches that the operating system and computer provides. So I realize you may not want to be hearing that.

But I think even if you do find a good cheap drum machine solution, the soundset is going to get old unless you get a sampler that is capable of enough storage capability and stereo sounds to be useful.

It's pretty disappointing, but true.

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I used to do just that, and unfortunately drum machines are mostly a thing of the past, even when I was doing it back in the 1990s, I had to use drum machines from the 1980s.

All of the good features you'd really want in a drum machine seem to have pretty much faded into history except for the AKAI MPC Series which itself has faded into history and is now a controller and software.

There are a few exceptions in terms of drum machines, again. But most of those are still selling for inflated prices, such as the lesser AKAI sampling drum machine or the non-sampling drum machine. Sorry I forget the model names and numbers.

I really like drum machine workflow, so I looked into it a lot over the last few years. But there's really nothing there.

If you are willing to accept the limitations, something like FL Studio 11 or higher is about the best drum machine you will find for both step editing and recorded live input with quantization and editing options and a huge palette of sonic possibilities via samples or VSTi's. But of course it's software and comes with all the headaches that the operating system and computer provides. So I realize you may not want to be hearing that.

But I think even if you do find a good cheap drum machine solution, the soundset is going to get old unless you get a sampler that is capable of enough storage capability and stereo sounds to be useful.
??? - doesn't the Elektron MD pretty much do everything you could want from a drum machine???

2nd hand they aren't excessively expensive but imo $200 is only going to get you a crap device.

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Still at $50 he could buy 4. I'd have thought it was almost a perfect entry-level drum machine. At least it makes some interesting sounds unlike a lot of boring cheap machines with their shitty acoustic drum samples/synthesis.
Sure it's the Raspberry Pi of drum machines, but that's all some people are after.
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Still at $50 he could buy 4. I'd have thought it was almost a perfect entry-level drum machine. At least it makes some interesting sounds unlike a lot of boring cheap machines with their shitty acoustic drum samples/synthesis.
Sure it's the Raspberry Pi of drum machines, but that's all some people are after.
You're right mate, I'm just reeling from the fact that it 'could' be superb but at present it would be pretty useless apart from sampling imo (Cuckoo said they might be getting rid of it, the 3 tempo thing, so fingers crossed)

Again for $50 that is great but I'd happily pay a bit more for a bit of studio integration - maybe even a few connection points and sell 'extra's' like a midi connector for example.

I will still probably end up with one tho

I will add that owning an iPad has probably clouded my judgement - Seekbeats is 6.99 and has midi sync and a great synth engine.

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