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Old 15-01-2014, 10:48 AM   #21
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Re: Arturia MiniBrute/MicroBrute

hahaha man, I rememeber laughing my ass off when I first saw the presets.

I got the microbrute, and I quite like playing around with mine, but I really dont feel like it was worth the cash, as for the most part it sounds like a toypiano with a cutoff. All I see it as is a toy, to play around with and make silly little noises, I couldnt imagine trying to use it in production.

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hahaha man, I rememeber laughing my ass off when I first saw the presets.

I got the microbrute, and I quite like playing around with mine, but I really dont feel like it was worth the cash, as for the most part it sounds like a toypiano with a cutoff. All I see it as is a toy, to play around with and make silly little noises, I couldnt imagine trying to use it in production.

I dont think you have spent enough time with it, seriously. Also, be subtle with your knob twisting, jacking the knobs back and forth from almost 100 percent to almost 0 wont get you very much. The patch matrix is essential IMO.

The Micro is very much like an old school analog in that it is dry and dusty. It needs some loving reverb, delay, or chorus dialed in just right to really bring it to life.

Also, watch the Metalizer on the triangle wave, it really make things ...well...metallic... quick....I can see that making it sound toyish.

I am not trying to diminish your opinion or be cruel, but if you cant imagine using it in production I feel like you havent been very imaginative about how to use the MicroBrute.

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Re: Arturia MiniBrute/MicroBrute

Is your MicroBrute broken? Mine didn't sound like a toy at all while I had it. It can get a little weedy/thin if you crank all the oscillator sources at once, especially the saw, pulse, and triangle waves.

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Re: Arturia MiniBrute/MicroBrute

wait. just. a. second.


can we revisit how shit that Stemming set is? guess i got old guy syndrome.


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Re: Arturia MiniBrute/MicroBrute

I played with it at the music store. I think it sounds particularly good. It has it's own character, so yes, it's not going to fill every possible role, but IMO that is what you find in a good analog synth. It has its own character.


Take the ms20 for example, that thing howls and sticks out like nothing else, definitely never gonna get you a smooth oberheim sound, but that's not what it's supposed to do.


Now the dave smith tetra I find to be more versatile, but also much more vanilla sounding. I mean it's solid synth for sure, but I don't find it's basic tone that interesting.
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wait. just. a. second.


can we revisit how shit that Stemming set is? guess i got old guy syndrome.


as for the Arturia, any of you have videos in action???
I totally owe IDMf hardware heads some videos or some audio clips or something. I wasnt that impressed by that Stemming set. Whenever I have time to work on music it doesnt cross my mind to do gear demos.

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Re: Arturia MiniBrute/MicroBrute

If you think the microbrute sounds thin, you should spend some time trying to follow Mark Doty's demos with a microbrute in your lap.

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I dont think you have spent enough time with it, seriously. Also, be subtle with your knob twisting, jacking the knobs back and forth from almost 100 percent to almost 0 wont get you very much. The patch matrix is essential IMO.

The Micro is very much like an old school analog in that it is dry and dusty. It needs some loving reverb, delay, or chorus dialed in just right to really bring it to life.

Also, watch the Metalizer on the triangle wave, it really make things ...well...metallic... quick....I can see that making it sound toyish.

I am not trying to diminish your opinion or be cruel, but if you cant imagine using it in production I feel like you havent been very imaginative about how to use the MicroBrute.
I have played with it quite a bit, and maybe I was exagerating a bit. I got into production in like 2012 or so, so I've never experienced an analog synth like this before now, so I think I've been spoiled with multiphony digital synths. I dialed into ableton, and applied some reverb and played with a drum machine along with it, but part of the fun of playing with it, was just having it on standalone.

Even then though, for production I just cant see it replacing softsynths, due to their versatility.

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I have played with it quite a bit, and maybe I was exagerating a bit. I got into production in like 2012 or so, so I've never experienced an analog synth like this before now, so I think I've been spoiled with multiphony digital synths. I dialed into ableton, and applied some reverb and played with a drum machine along with it, but part of the fun of playing with it, was just having it on standalone.

Even then though, for production I just cant see it replacing softsynths, due to their versatility.
Yes. If you are going to go look at a straight features comparison you might as well just buy Diva (if your CPU can handle it ;p).

Right now the new mono analogs have all the knobs, and thats what I want. I like programming that way. Also, you could layer and combine recordings froma singal synth. The workflow isnt the same and is slower, but there can be good rewards there.

Also if you have something like Alchemy or a wavetable VST you could load your Microbrute patches into those and further process them.

If you prefer standalone, I recommend setting up Ableton to record audio. Get to know the sequencer and play with one hand, knob twist with the other. Alternatively let Ableton sequence the synth while you record knob twisting.

I know softsynth and automation...but automation will never sound like twisting knobs live.

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I have played with it quite a bit, and maybe I was exagerating a bit. I got into production in like 2012 or so, so I've never experienced an analog synth like this before now, so I think I've been spoiled with multiphony digital synths. I dialed into ableton, and applied some reverb and played with a drum machine along with it, but part of the fun of playing with it, was just having it on standalone.

Even then though, for production I just cant see it replacing softsynths, due to their versatility.
"Fun" is not how you get to describe the sound quality of a piece of hardware.
If you have issues with the interface, address them as such.
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I have played with it quite a bit, and maybe I was exagerating a bit. I got into production in like 2012 or so, so I've never experienced an analog synth like this before now, so I think I've been spoiled with multiphony digital synths. I dialed into ableton, and applied some reverb and played with a drum machine along with it, but part of the fun of playing with it, was just having it on standalone.

Even then though, for production I just cant see it replacing softsynths, due to their versatility.
I was quite surprised to read your initial comments and you have now cleared that up a bit, so I understand a little more where your coming from. I had a listen to some of your tunes (Kremlin is cool btw) and thought your stuff was perfect for some warm analog goodness!!

Regarding software synths being more versatile - one thing to try is load up a vsti of your choice with a patch you like and then 'turn of all its effects' so you will see how un-impressive the raw synth sounds. Add the similar chain of fx to the micro and you start to hear how useful the synth can be.

Then again, if you are happy with soft synths you should easily be able to sell it on.

The micro is a basic synth so you use it accordingly - it won't replace a absynth for example.

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I was quite surprised to read your initial comments and you have now cleared that up a bit, so I understand a little more where your coming from. I had a listen to some of your tunes (Kremlin is cool btw) and thought your stuff was perfect for some warm analog goodness!!

Regarding software synths being more versatile - one thing to try is load up a vsti of your choice with a patch you like and then 'turn of all its effects' so you will see how un-impressive the raw synth sounds. Add the similar chain of fx to the micro and you start to hear how useful the synth can be.

Then again, if you are happy with soft synths you should easily be able to sell it on.

The micro is a basic synth so you use it accordingly - it won't replace a absynth for example.
I won't sell it on purely based on the fact that I like the novelity of it(Ever since I started production I've been intrested in hardsynths because...it totes makes you feel more like a "real" musician, doesnt it?), and as I hope I've said, I like playing with it, just pressing keys, making sounds, twisting the knobs. When I say I see it mostly as a toy, that's not meant as seeing it as a device that isn't very functional. It's more about how I treat it when I use it, and the main reason I got it in the first place.

The main issue I see is that how I've always made music is with a DAW, I'm very used to having a graphical interface, where it feels like everything is under control. I can see all the midi, I can pretty much always change any element in my track. I'm fully aware this isn't neccecary, or even better, but having only this ever, its hard to accept stuff like resampling as well.

Since (for me at least) it feels like letting go of control. The same would go for the microbrute if I should use it. I'd have to record it, and if I use it for several projects with maybe more elements, taking another recording would be a hassle, since I'd have to make an overlay or pretty much just remember the patch, or make a new one.

Then again, I'm intrested to take up the challenge, seeing as how many of you seem to actually do something more with it, and pointing out how it could be used this way... I think I might try something one of these days.

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Even if you try the microbrute for something like cooking up a big, round (warm) electric bass like for a reggae tune or deep dubstep dial in some Triangle (no metalizer) and Square (PW at between 11 and 1), oscialltor amounts to taste. Envelope to PWM on the modmatrix. Fiddle with the envelop until you get a sound you like. This might be a good basic way to start implenting the mciro into a production, doing a simple mono bass or lead as the micro will excell at those with little effort IMO.

When I do this I like to use Guitar Rig with a bass amp and cab. Maybe some overdrive.

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Re: Arturia MiniBrute/MicroBrute

I was really surprised to see the Minibrute for demo at Guitar Center yesterday. They never have shit out on the racks to demo. I guess it's because they have so many Arturia MIDI controllers. Anway, I plan to spend some time messing with it.
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Even if you try the microbrute for something like cooking up a big, round (warm) electric bass like for a reggae tune or deep dubstep dial in some Triangle (no metalizer) and Square (PW at between 11 and 1), oscialltor amounts to taste. Envelope to PWM on the modmatrix. Fiddle with the envelop until you get a sound you like. This might be a good basic way to start implenting the mciro into a production, doing a simple mono bass or lead as the micro will excell at those with little effort IMO.

When I do this I like to use Guitar Rig with a bass amp and cab. Maybe some overdrive.
yea this is smart. For some reason, bass is one of the places I notice the biggest difference between analog and digital. I can't figure out why but it's true. I have a roland sh-09 and that thing can create the most amazing bass sounds.
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I was really surprised to see the Minibrute for demo at Guitar Center yesterday. They never have shit out on the racks to demo. I guess it's because they have so many Arturia MIDI controllers. Anway, I plan to spend some time messing with it.
Really? My local one has every synth and all their expensive DJ contorllers setup to demo. I also got to use Maschine mkI there.


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yea this is smart. For some reason, bass is one of the places I notice the biggest difference between analog and digital. I can't figure out why but it's true. I have a roland sh-09 and that thing can create the most amazing bass sounds.
I agree. There are other qualities you can get more easily with analogs such as raw harmonically rich sounds that arent all scratchy/noisey highend. But maybe I am doing it wrong. I also think that digital isnt as dry and dusty as often as analog butthat may just be me...

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I finally got to play with a Minibrute for a few minutes at Guitar Center. It really does have a nice build to it. The knobs are super solid and the thing feels heavy like they say.

It's funny, I was only in there because they screwed up a refund from last week when I got my AKAI midi controller. Our Guitar Center in Colorado Springs mainly has music workstations and midi controllers out. They now have one MicroKorg and an XL plus the Minibrute out for demo. They have an Arturia Spark and the smaller version of that, but I don't think they are hooked up to a computer so they are useless for checking them out setup like that, duh. Great, I can touch it.

Being able to play around with hardware is what a music store is for, dammit! Get me moar synths!!!!

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The MicroBrute and Guitar Rig were made for each other. Vibes. All of them!

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