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Old 20-12-2016, 11:02 PM   #21
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yeah but second one takes no skills whatsoever, if you like it you can get tube of paint and paper and make one right no
my point is that saying that making square is harder than first one, and glorifying it - sounds funny
I kind of agree but not as well, there are some simple techno tracks that are great to listen to and others that are not because of what you have said.

One example of a simple track I would pick is Tiga - Shoes, simple electro track, basic lyrics, but fucking ace (I think anyway).

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Old 20-12-2016, 11:06 PM   #22
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yeah but second one takes no skills whatsoever, if you like it you can get tube of paint and paper and make one right no
my point is that saying that making square is harder than first one, and glorifying it - sounds funny
Almost without question, the most important minimalist/avant garde composition ever is Cage's 4'33". It contains a handful of sounds and no notes, but it manages to both epitomize and undermine an entire body of art. Likewise, the Ramones had, in aggregate, almost zero musical talent for their entire careers, yet managed to spawn not one but several hugely popular genres of music.

It's not the complexity of a piece, it's the fact that it happened, that someone bothered to make it happen, that someone realized it should happen that makes things like that square important. There's plenty of the unwashed masses that don't care for Rothko, or even consider it art, but there are whole hosts of popular artists that are informed and influenced by what he did. Limiting your perception of quality or lack thereof to complexity makes for a pretty narrow brush to paint with, especially for an artist working in a marginalized field.

Or, if we're just dumping out opinions, I like the square more than the Axl Rose caricature, and I've never really found Techno I liked despite numerous attempts. My heart will go on.
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Old 20-12-2016, 11:26 PM   #23
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I kind of agree but not as well, there are some simple techno tracks that are great to listen to and others that are not because of what you have said.

One example of a simple track I would pick is Tiga - Shoes, simple electro track, basic lyrics, but fucking ace (I think anyway).
You see there's a niche market for this track...can imagine it being used on the catwalk. I can see thos models now...foot fetishes not my thing ut I am sure there's plenty that...well we move on!

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Old 21-12-2016, 12:41 AM   #24
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Re: People who don't "get" Techno

I like the black square, because it doesn't look as ugly.

darkness, idk how your loved industrial is any better than techno, there's the real farts and noises at.

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Old 21-12-2016, 01:27 AM   #25
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yeah but second one takes no skills whatsoever, if you like it you can get tube of paint and paper and make one right no
my point is that saying that making square is harder than first one, and glorifying it - sounds funny
you're stupid as shit fuck you

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Old 21-12-2016, 01:37 AM   #26
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please don't overthink, not everything has deep meaning behind, technically making minimal techno tracks (such as one posted) is really easy
it has simple mechanism behind, musician was working his ass to get popular, then he got fanbase and guess what ? even if he records few farts and puts it on 4x4 beats with few clicks and claps it will sell, so why work hard to make quality music anymore ?
is this one sentence? what the fuck man.
who said anything about overthinking and deep meaning? We're talking techno. I said "get bored"; as in "not in the mood for dancing anymore". Talk about putting words in the mouths of others so you can rant about whatever pops in your mind.

That first malevitch picture is ugly as fuck.

Anyway, minimalism in art and in music doesn't mean the same thing. I said minimalism la Steve Reich. I was referring to Steve Reich specifically, and by that I meant music that is pattern-oriented with rhythmical counterpoint.

It would be nonsense to argue minimalism in art with you given how prejudiced you seem to be. I'll just say that the fact that you think people need "deep meaning" to enjoy minimal art makes you the stupidest shit I've encountered in a while. Soulages envelops me and has a true emotional impact on me. You saying I shouldn't have that reaction because "it requires no skill whatsoever" to make those paintings makes you a shit human being.

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Old 21-12-2016, 01:46 AM   #27
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Old 21-12-2016, 01:48 AM   #28
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i think minimalism is excuse for laziness
you're intellectually lazy as well as emotionally disabled

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Old 21-12-2016, 01:52 AM   #29
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Old 21-12-2016, 02:57 AM   #30
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Re: People who don't "get" Techno

Looks like this thread has reached its destination (destiny?).

My (subject matter) is better than your (subject matter, related or, preferably, not related), and if you don't see/agree with that, then you're an (expletive) (demeaning adjective) (expletive).

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Old 21-12-2016, 07:10 AM   #31
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Re: People who don't "get" Techno

Minimalism iin techno is extremely difficult to do well. Echo Space The Coldest Season is still mysteriously beautiful to me.

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Old 21-12-2016, 09:52 AM   #32
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Looks like this thread has reached its destination (destiny?).

My (subject matter) is better than your (subject matter, related or, preferably, not related), and if you don't see/agree with that, then you're an (expletive) (demeaning adjective) (expletive).
what did you just say about my subject matter

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Old 21-12-2016, 01:02 PM   #33
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Fwiw:



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Old 21-12-2016, 01:47 PM   #34
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Looks like this thread has reached its destination (destiny?).

My (subject matter) is better than your (subject matter, related or, preferably, not related), and if you don't see/agree with that, then you're an (expletive) (demeaning adjective) (expletive).
pretty much most of the threads here


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Old 21-12-2016, 01:53 PM   #35
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lol I'm an asshole to everyone and no one likes it, what a bunch of stupid idiots.

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Old 21-12-2016, 03:12 PM   #36
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Looks like this thread has reached its destination (destiny?).

My (subject matter) is better than your (subject matter, related or, preferably, not related), and if you don't see/agree with that, then you're an (expletive) (demeaning adjective) (expletive).
Yes what a bunch of uncivilized savages.


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I like the second picture more. It has a stringent austerity in it's form that questions what you believe in.
It's ok to get that but it's wrong to say it. You're supposed to not say anything and walk away.

The art is the girl looking at it, being looked at by people thinking that the black square is a visual representation of what's going on in her brain. Maybe all she wants is free wine and hook up with other fucked up artists and group fuck.

Now excuse me while I go make some brilliant music that consists of filtered noise modulated by people's tinnituses.


Art for the fucking sake of form may still be art you're allowed to bash it all fucking day long. It's the whole point. You give it meaning by pretending you get it, somehow.


Fucking snowflakes. All the same until you look closely and long enough then BAM everything is art. And nothing means shit.

Confused? Good.

FUck art, let's dance. Trust me, you can. Eat this first.
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Old 21-12-2016, 04:12 PM   #37
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Re: People who don't "get" Techno

I just had a super profound thought:

You know that mandelbrot set? Well, it just occurred to me that it should technically have somewhere in it the outline of the face of everyone that has ever/ will ever live.

K fuck it let's dance now.



That's what spinning on my left deck RIGHT NAO!
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Old 21-12-2016, 05:11 PM   #38
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Step away from the bell-end.
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Old 21-12-2016, 06:08 PM   #39
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Step away from the bell-end.
i dont understand, why do you want me to stay away from you ?

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Old 23-12-2016, 10:48 AM   #40
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No, your mom.

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