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Old 14-10-2012, 02:04 PM   #1
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Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

yep.
for all of you questioning homosexuality and/or thinking it's a "sin", something bad or whatever the fuck you have (not that we have a lot of those people here, but we do) read it, find the book and read that as well and then hopefully change your opinion:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

everyone with those opinions should do this.

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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

It sucks we still live in a time when some people need books like these to help them "understand" that calling someone a "faggot" and depriving them of their equal rights is "wrong" and "bad".

Especially the people spouting off about how the ONLY reason we have morality is because of the bible.

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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

I find it equally hilarious when people say we wouldnt know right from wrong without the bible.

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Old 15-10-2012, 01:24 AM   #5
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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

As a homophobic In-The-Closet Gay Mitt Romney approves this thread
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Old 15-10-2012, 01:25 AM   #6
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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

Lol it's funny bcuz he's mormon and they are homophobic lololol

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Old 15-10-2012, 01:26 AM   #7
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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

Whatever. You don't need to pretend to be anything to practice acceptance.

Unless of course you're simply pretending to be accepting.

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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

It's nice that he's no longer homophobic, but he still believes in a magic man in the sky, is still a 'conservative' (presumably "pro-life", pro death penalty, pro poverty, pro war etc.), he decieved a whole lot of people for his little experiment, and did it all to sell a book.

Excuse me if I don't trip over myself to applaud him like a lobotomized sea lion.

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Old 15-10-2012, 02:59 AM   #10
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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

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Whatever. You don't need to pretend to be anything to practice acceptance.

Unless of course you're simply pretending to be accepting.
This is how this post started;

Maybe, yeah. I didn't read the OP links (I will tomorrow) but I saw an article on this the other day and from what I gathered it was more to do with the personal empathy when a friend cried in his arms and told him she was gay, worried about whatever repercussions and ignorance/hatred she would be met with upon coming out. That sounds like a starting point I could understand...

Then I remembered a little more about the article. I'm about to go to bed and don't remember too well, I'll read about it again tomorrow. I wanted to say I'd rather someone come to the right conclusion later in life than they should than never come to that conclusion at all but at the same time doesn't spending a year pretending to be homosexual seem quite homophobic?

I'll read it about it again tomorrow but I mean what did he do? Lie and tell people he was gay (sin)? Maybe he just did what all the gay people do and get involved with gay culture by wearing multicoloured rainbow clothes and calling everyone "babe" and dancing hard techno in a leopard print thong, all the stuff that all gay people definitely do every day.

Hmmm...
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Old 15-10-2012, 07:37 AM   #11
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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

Interesting article.

He was taught that being a certain way was evil, saw hypocrisy, challenged it, did something about it, came through the experience more informed. I can't really do anything other than approve.

Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, I only have issue with it when its forced on others or used as an excuse for cruelty to others.

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Especially the people spouting off about how the ONLY reason we have morality is because of the bible.
Implying a reward/punishment type of morality is actually morality ;p

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Old 15-10-2012, 09:37 AM   #13
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It sucks we still live in a time when some people need books like these to help them "understand" that calling someone a "faggot" and depriving them of their equal rights is "wrong" and "bad".

Especially the people spouting off about how the ONLY reason we have morality is because of the bible.

Anyways, just my 2cp.
Yes it really sucks that people have to read stuff like that to understand. And I'm sure that a lot of homophobic people that are going to read it won't change their mind at all nor question themselves about their beliefs.

Plus the propaganda of homophobic religons (quite every religion) is growing. Just in front of where I work there is a big sign saying "Jesus Christ said: Don't worry. Believe in me, and believe God". I mean come on, what are they thinking ?!

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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

You guys do understand that hating people just because they have faith in a religion is just as bad and hypocritcal as those who are against hating on homosexuality?

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You guys do understand that hating people just because they have faith in a religion is just as bad and hypocritcal as those who are against hating on homosexuality?
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I'm not hating on religion, I'm hating on homophobic people. And unfortunately most of the people that are homophobic have such thoughts beacuse of religion.

When I'm talking about the propaganda I just wanted to point out how stupid it was... Would you imagine a political party or a brand make publicity like that ?

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I'm not hating on religion, I'm hating on homophobic people. And unfortunately most of the people that are homophobic have such thoughts beacuse of religion.

When I'm talking about the propaganda I just wanted to point out how stupid it was... Would you imagine a political party or a brand make publicity like that ?
I don't have to imagine it.

Politicians here make attack ads and propaganda regularly. the conservative government in canada spends multi fuckign billions of dollars just on propaganda and slander against their opponents, and not even just in elections, they do this constantly, all year, every year.

In the last issue of the local news paper there were i think three ads pushing support for a horribly unsafe, unwise plan by an oil company to run a pipeline across Alberta and BC to the coast, along with allowing oil tankers access up a narrow and horribly dangerous waterway that is prtty much guaranteed to result in a ship crashing and spilling oil eventually. One of these ads was a full page spread.
they are touting the jobs it'll create as a benefit, but we can easily creat jobs by focusing on less dangerous and stupid plans, like ones that encourage alternative sources of energy and helping to build industries that actually need help, unlike oil companies.

and no, not everyone who is homophobic is because of religion. I wouldn't even say most are. many people re just because it's not what they're into and they're brought up to believe that things that are different are wrong.
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I don't have to imagine it.

Politicians here make attack ads and propaganda regularly. the conservative government in canada spends multi fuckign billions of dollars just on propaganda and slander against their opponents, and not even just in elections, they do this constantly, all year, every year.

In the last issue of the local news paper there were i think three ads pushing support for a horribly unsafe, unwise plan by an oil company to run a pipeline across Alberta and BC to the coast, along with allowing oil tankers access up a narrow and horribly dangerous waterway that is prtty much guaranteed to result in a ship crashing and spilling oil eventually. One of these ads was a full page spread.
they are touting the jobs it'll create as a benefit, but we can easily creat jobs by focusing on less dangerous and stupid plans, like ones that encourage alternative sources of energy and helping to build industries that actually need help, unlike oil companies.
Political parties here also spend millions for propaganda, and I think that's happening in a lot of countries in Europe and around the world, wich is stupid nonetheless. Espacially the conservative parties.

Talking about the issue in the local news: Not so long ago (a year or so) there was a huge publicity campaign for the most popular conservative party. The campaing was about the laws that were going to be voted over the deportation of criminal immigrants. Leaving the reason of that campaign aside, their posters and flyers were just racist as fuck. Nobody at the government complained about it, there were only some people ripping off those posters or doing Graffitis on them.

The point is that the those radical conservative campaigns at least have a real message and arguments (even if it's stupid to me) compare to that religious publicity I was talking about that only said "Believe in God". I really don't understand how people are going to react like "Oh, I'm going to believe in god now" when seeing the signs and posters.


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and no, not everyone who is homophobic is because of religion. I wouldn't even say most are. many people re just because it's not what they're into and they're brought up to believe that things that are different are wrong.
I agree that not all of them are because of religion. Like you said, it's wrong for them to think, do or be different, it's mainly because years ago, when education was based on religion, they learned what "wasn't good to do" and what "was good to do".

Still not saying the EVERYONE is like that but there is a link between religion and people being homophobic.

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Re: Why a Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay

The problem wth religion is that it if you validate one religous belief, you validate them all. The beliefs of a homophobic chrstian have exactly the same epistemological basis as the beliefs of a non-homophobic one. You can't just dismiss one because it's not convenient. When we accept "X is a valid belief because I simply believe it", you have to also accept that X can be absoloutely anything. I'm not going to applaud "nice" religious belief, because it allows for nasty religious beliefs. It holds the position that views derived from fairytales are equal to views derived from reason and logic, and that's always going to be dangerous.

On the other hand, It's extremely difficult to justify homophobia using actual logic or empirical evidence. I don't think religion is the origin of homophobia, but I'm willing to go on a limb and say it's 99.99999% responsible for maintaning its existence into modern day.

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No, that's deeply offensive. Religion is an ideology which has demonstrated itself to be increasingly detrimental to human progress/equality time and time again. Homosexuality is something can't be changed or chosen and which has been persecuted non stop for nearly 2000 years. They are not equivelant. Our rights to equality under law, freedom from violence and smply not beng made to feel like subhumans because of who we are sexually and romantcally attracted to always trumps the 'right' to feel like your fairytales are being 'respected'.

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I find it equally hilarious when people say we wouldnt know right from wrong without the bible.

Who says we know right from wrong?

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