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Old 20-12-2011, 09:58 PM   #1
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Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

Hey guys. Just wanted to share one of my techniques and get a quick discussion on it.

So when I mix, I put a parametric EQ on every channel. When I'm doing dubstep for example, what I'll do is have a peak controller on my kicks and snares. I will then link an EQ from the bass so that the highs sidechain the snare, and the low sidechains the kick. So when the kick comes in, the lower frequencies in the baseline spike down to make room for the kick, and when the snare hits, the highs spike down to make room for the snare. I also use this on a lot of other instruments as well so instead of controlling the volume of a whole channel I am just controlling the frequency range that I want to avoid mudding.
This for me makes more sense than completely cutting out frequencies and losing dynamics to avoid mudding. It's a nice technique and allows the track to breath a lot more, and gives the mix headroom.

Does anyone else use this technique? I have never really seen it used before so I'm wondering if there's a downside to this. Thoughts? And any other advanced EQ tips?

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Old 20-12-2011, 10:12 PM   #2
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Re: Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

Using a dynamic EQ avoids the need of cutting too much and making static adjustments that don't live according to the track or sound. But it reacts like a normal compressor/expander with a threshold, ratio and timing controls. However, they can be side-chain triggered as well, if desired.

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Old 20-12-2011, 10:36 PM   #3
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Re: Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

The problems you're talking about are those created in arranging and production, and are best dealt with before the mix. The key isn't forcing a kick and bass to fit together, but finding a kick and bass that are complementary and fit nicely together in the mix, no need to notch anything out. Sometimes a sidechain is nice as an effect, or if it just doesn't quite work otherwise, and a dynamic EQ can fix some problematic issues, but I wouldn't suggest it as the go to solution for everything.

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Old 20-12-2011, 11:27 PM   #4
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Re: Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

I was going to post a question on a related topic, maybe one of you guys might know something...

I was wondering if there was an EQ plugin that could take a sidechain signal and adjust the EQ relative to the spectrum of the input signal. For example, say you have a busy drum track, and a wild acid bassline that bounces all over the audio spectrum, it'd be cool to have an EQ that dynamically responds to the spectrum of a sidechain channel. I want this more for a deliberate/psychodelic effect than nuts-n'bolts mixing.

As far as I'm aware, no such plugin exists. I'm hoping I'm wrong!

Edit: Herp Derp I didn't read that my question was already answered in a previous post.

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Re: Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

A simple multiband compressor sidechained should achieve this for you.

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Re: Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

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I was wondering if there was an EQ plugin that could take a sidechain signal and adjust the EQ relative to the spectrum of the input signal. For example, say you have a busy drum track, and a wild acid bassline that bounces all over the audio spectrum, it'd be cool to have an EQ that dynamically responds to the spectrum of a sidechain channel. I want this more for a deliberate/psychodelic effect than nuts-n'bolts mixing.

As far as I'm aware, no such plugin exists. I'm hoping I'm wrong!
A dynamic EQ with a side-chain input such as the mentioned MAutoDynamicEq?

Elevayta Space Boy?
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Sidechainable multiband comp as well, as mentioned above.

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Re: Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

I just tried this in Reason. The MClass compressor has gain reduction CV out, I connected it to a combinators CV in and made it control a gain on an EQ. What's fun is that it even shows you visually (on the EQ) what's happening.

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Re: Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

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A dynamic EQ with a side-chain input such as the mentioned MAutoDynamicEq?

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Sidechainable multiband comp as well, as mentioned above.
should have read the thread more thoroughly, cheers!
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Re: Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

i am in the middle of making a plugin that does this very job

i love the technique, but depending on what DAW you are using it can be a lot of work to set up, which is why i am developing the plugin to make it easier.
of course i will be giving it to all IDMF folk

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Re: Advanced EQ/Sidechaining

Hell yea dude, excited to check it out

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