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Old 14-03-2017, 03:43 AM   #1
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now imagine if you set supercomputer loose on it and make it control daw, plus some way for critics to make quick inputs it will just outlearn you in mere seconds, and can do in 1 hour or maybe less that you will do in lifetime.

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Old 14-03-2017, 03:53 AM   #2
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

You can't tell me what I will do in my lifetime.

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Old 14-03-2017, 04:01 AM   #3
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

fixed it, btw AI made your avatar didn't it ?

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Old 14-03-2017, 04:18 AM   #4
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

Here friend, instead of being terrified of software programming (there are way more reasonable things out there to be terrified of, like spiders for instance) I am going to help you understand and become their master http://www.alicebot.org/be.html

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Old 14-03-2017, 04:34 AM   #5
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

problem is that if i use bot to make music then its not made by me anymore, and secondly this is just tip of an iceberg, just imagine if listener is replaced by machine too, music made by machine for machines, way beyond human understanding

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Old 14-03-2017, 05:35 AM   #6
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

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problem is that if i use bot to make music then its not made by me anymore
then get the fuck off the electronic music forum

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Old 14-03-2017, 05:38 AM   #7
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

now as i created this thread and went to make a tea, i gave into thoughts and came back with questions, what is music and art ? it is exchange of information by means of vibrations through air, what if i bypassed ears and auditory cortex as whole and directly delivered information to brain, would it still be music ? would picture still be picture if i delivered idea bypassing visual cortex ?
i cant put this idea together very well right now, it needs some polishing, but you get what im saying

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Old 14-03-2017, 06:59 AM   #8
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

I liked the second song.

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Old 14-03-2017, 07:09 AM   #9
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

Not worried at all but then again I'm not some reactive luddite forever looking for techno boogeymen. I'm also not convinced that my Tesla car is going to go all HAL on me and refuse to open the pod bay doors. Reckless of me really.

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Old 14-03-2017, 11:46 AM   #10
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

"A lot of people like Mozart were prodigies; they were writing brilliant works at very young ages," "That's probably what's going to happen: some brilliant kid will come along and be popular. I can see a lone artist with a lot of tapes and electrical ... like an extension of the Moog synthesizer — a keyboard with the complexity and richness of a whole orchestra, y'know? There's somebody out there, working in a basement, just inventing a whole new musical form."
--Jim Morrison

So replace "brilliant kid" with "AI" and boom. New musical form.

The AI explosion will be so beyond music creation, it's really on the bottom of my worry list.

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Old 14-03-2017, 01:21 PM   #11
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

Dubstep/Brostep was already a thing, though..

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Old 14-03-2017, 03:54 PM   #12
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

interesting concept. If an AI is not strictly understanding music in a mathematical fashion (chords, notes, progessions,..) but is also able to emulate emotions, we are quite close. If these AIs can also incorporate elements of surprise, like humans can do we will not be able to distinguish their music from ours.

but are these machines restricted to only emulate our feelings, and therefore make music that we can 'understand'? If we go one step further, if we unleash the iterative process on their self-created music, will the AIs start to make music that is so evolved we will not be able to connect to it? Will they create their own (emotive) networks which are above our understanding?

Like in Her, when the AI connects to multiple other AIs on levels we do not comprehend?
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Old 14-03-2017, 04:52 PM   #13
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

Music is a feeling. Robots cant make real music.

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Old 14-03-2017, 05:19 PM   #14
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

Just wait until robots start shitting out black MIDI and brown notes on their own youtube robot channels. Pretty soon we'll see a slew of robots joining this very forum, shitposting and everything.

This is nothing, it's going to get a lot more complicated.

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Old 14-03-2017, 06:01 PM   #15
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

restricted ? only thing that restricts machine is computing power, in 30 years desktop pc will literally emulate your brain on neuron level, it can feel and soon it will have more emotions than human will ever have, can you imagine new emotion ? you cant, just like you cant imagine new color, can you imagine what 50khz sine wave sounds like ? can you exactly tell me how it is restricted ? other than computational power which will be solved in future

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Old 14-03-2017, 06:08 PM   #16
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

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So replace "brilliant kid" with "AI" and boom.
I was going to say something along these lines if I felt less like OP was an alt. Literally the "Fear" is no different than being terrified not even of someone smarter than you but we'll say someone more knowledgeable. (isn't that the point of learning music theory in the first place?)

And _then_ there's the reality that we haven't proved actual intelligence yet. Dually certain on these forums.

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Pretty soon we'll see a slew of robots joining this very forum, shitposting and everything.
a lot of times i feel like that's already the case. because...no, that can't possibly be an actual human with a brain saying this shit, can it?
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Re: Arent you guys afraid of AI music ?

Only if the AI stops me from making music...why would I be "afraid" of it? I dont think human musicians will realistically replaced by computers until well after I am dead.

Computers are really good at following rules, not breaking them.
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Only if the AI stops me from making music...why would I be "afraid" of it? I dont think human musicians will realistically replaced by computers until well after I am dead.
Of course the idea that humans and computers can collaborate doesn't even phase the "AI Terror/Robot Overlords" types.

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