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Old 05-11-2016, 08:07 PM   #1
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Foley Manipulation

I'm a huge Amon Tobin fan and still learning my way through messing with Foley recordings, mainly inspired by Amon but i just have 1 problem. When he pitches up and down his foley recordings, they keep that same original "texture" to them, how he does it ? is it analog gear ? or the quality of the sample that matters ? usually if i play with their pitch they tend to lose quality and sound muddy and weak out of their original key, . Could anyone help me in this ? how can i mess with the pitch and keep the sound characteristics ?

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Old 05-12-2016, 06:14 PM   #2
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I'm a huge Amon Tobin fan and still learning my way through messing with Foley recordings, mainly inspired by Amon but i just have 1 problem. When he pitches up and down his foley recordings, they keep that same original "texture" to them, how he does it ? is it analog gear ? or the quality of the sample that matters ? usually if i play with their pitch they tend to lose quality and sound muddy and weak out of their original key, . Could anyone help me in this ? how can i mess with the pitch and keep the sound characteristics ?

In you simply pitch up or down any audio sample it will rise or fall in pitch depending on which way you go. At the same time it will slow down or speed up.
If you want to keep the original pitch/characteristics then you need something like Abletons warp feature and you need to select the right warping mode depending on what kind of effect you want to achieve.

Not sure what the equivalent is in FL but I'm sure some other users here can give you some insight into that...

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Re: Foley Manipulation

You can try to use distortion, EQ and filters to get it sound crispier.

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Old 05-13-2016, 11:09 AM   #4
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Re: Foley Manipulation

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When he pitches up and down his foley recordings, they keep that same original "texture" to them, how he does it?
Probably granular synthesis - with grains long enough. Something like IL Harmor or other resynthesis plugin could work.

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is it analog gear?
No. Shifting stuff around with a frequency shifter would be a major pain in the ass.

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The quality of the sample that matters?
If pitching things down, yes. Sample rate matters.

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It's notable that Tobin uses Hakeen Audio Continuum a lot, and probably the built-in engines for sample mangling. It's completely out of the cost bracket of mortals, of course, but I'd assume that the algorithms are rather basic granular stuff. Trying to control a granular synth with an expressive MIDI controller, such as Linnstrument/EWI Wind controller may get you there.

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Old 05-13-2016, 11:12 AM   #5
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Re: Foley Manipulation

I would definitely look into granular synthesis. A whole new world will appear.

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Old 05-14-2016, 09:33 AM   #6
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Re: Foley Manipulation

I too was going to say granular

Get Reaktor ;0)

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Re: Foley Manipulation

according to amon's interviews this is what he uses

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pretty expensive though....

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Re: Foley Manipulation

harmour is awsome for foley work
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:17 AM   #9
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according to amon's interviews this is what he uses

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pretty expensive though....
Yeah I've looked into this before, it's fucking ridiculous. Essentially a really powerful computer entirely programmed for sound design..

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