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Old 03-19-2016, 07:01 PM   #1
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Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

hey guys, im looking to buy my first hardware synth and this one seems to be a decent price, but is it worth it? should i pick up a microbrute instead?

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Old 03-19-2016, 07:33 PM   #2
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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

I would say neither of those if you have a choice, check out a Bass Station II IMO. Or a Korg Minilogue. But of the two MicroBrute all day long.

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Old 03-20-2016, 02:13 AM   #4
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I would say neither of those if you have a choice, check out a Bass Station II IMO. Or a Korg Minilogue. But of the two MicroBrute all day long.

Lol they're both double the price and a bit more though so unfair comparison in my opinion. I'd personally scour eBay for a second hand bit of kit. More bang for your buck easily on second hand gear, and most hardware owners tend to always look after their gear, so rip off potential is small
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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

Depends what kind of sounds you want to make?
But I would not recommend to buy a new one too if its your first one (sorry suppliers). Cause after first one you will want another one and then another.. Buy second hand, there are lots of good options like mininova, microbrute, Rhythm Wolf, microkorg, Volca beats. Try them all and you will find yours
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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

I have a bass station 2 and I can def say it's good and worth it if you find a good deal on one, cool synth

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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

I think it all depends on what direction you want to go. I have a Rhythm Wolf, which has the same synth voice at the Timbre Wolf and it's....so so.

The Timbre Wolf having 4 voices is nice, but at the end of the day it's still just a mono synth with limited flexibility.

If you get a mono synth, get the Arturia MicroBrute. The modulation capabilities are much more, but not prohibitively complicated for a beginner. Plus, if you want to get a modular system, it's easy to patch in and out. My brother has one that he runs through a few effects pedals and you can get quite a bit out of it.

If you want to get a polysynth, I'd say go for the Korg Minilogue. Everything is laid out in a very intuitive way and its modulation capabilities are even enough for a more advanced person. I have a Novation MiniNova, which is honestly more synth than I can handle. Plus, you're stuck looking at a tiny screen for most of the modulation and effects processing unless you use the DAW VST for editing.

Bottom line: I'd say get a MiniLogue. The Timbre Wolf will leave you wanting more very quickly.
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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

If you're not opposed to digital, a novation K station is a good option too. An Alesis Micron also offers a ton of editing capabilities, but without an editor hook up to your computer it can be a little tedious.
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If you're not opposed to digital, a novation K station is a good option too. An Alesis Micron also offers a ton of editing capabilities, but without an editor hook up to your computer it can be a little tedious.
Yes the KS4 or KS rack is incredible value these days.

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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

Guitar Center in Colorado Springs has this thing for $200, but even at that price it doesn't seem that interesting. I messed around with it a bit today and did not get the feels.
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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

The new Korg Monologue looks like a great cheap first synth imo.

The Dark Energy is ace too.

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Old 11-24-2016, 07:59 PM   #12
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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

watched review videos (yeah i don't know why but i did it) its another handicapped retro replica synth

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Old 12-15-2016, 05:41 PM   #13
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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

Hmmmm, this is disapointing to read, I was hoping to use it as a groove box in my live setup
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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

But as to firts synths the Akai Miniak has the same synth engine as the alesis Ion and the sequencer from the micron, is pretty inexpensive (I payed £134 for mine) and you can get software editors to get round the limits of the lack of controls - though it's actually fairly easy to program using all the built in short cuts.
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I would say neither of those if you have a choice, check out a Bass Station II IMO. Or a Korg Minilogue. But of the two MicroBrute all day long.
I had the opportunity to noodle around on the microbrute a few days back, personally I was really impressed with it. I was very inspired and could absoloutely fit that beast into my lifestyle. I highly recomend it as a great intro synth, especially starting out with analog sound design. Its equally great for a modular noob like myself. Its kinda off topic but worth mentioning that we live in a great era for the possibility of obtaining sweet sweet gear, and not have to be paid on salary. I am certain its cheaper to build a studio than it is to build a Warhammer 40k chaos marine unit.
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Re: Akai Timbre wolf thoughts?

What about the Arturia DrumBrute? I just read the futuremusic arturia drumbrute review and they seem to like it.

futuremusic.com/2017/04/06/arturia-drumbrute-review/
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What about the Arturia DrumBrute? I just read the futuremusic arturia drumbrute review and they seem to like it.

futuremusic.com/2017/04/06/arturia-drumbrute-review/
As a DrumBrute owner I have somewhat mixed feelings--in a lot of ways it offers some awesome features for a prosumer price. However, I feel like the sound pallete is pretty narrow unless you already have a lot of good saturation/distortion options (softwre, hardware whatevs). Most of the voices, in my experience having a DB since the beginning of the year) is that most of the voices have either limited sweet spots or not much texture variation. Like the hats, w/o processing, are always gonna be harsh or at their tamest dirty as fvck.

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As a DrumBrute owner I have somewhat mixed feelings--in a lot of ways it offers some awesome features for a prosumer price. However, I feel like the sound pallete is pretty narrow unless you already have a lot of good saturation/distortion options (softwre, hardware whatevs). Most of the voices, in my experience having a DB since the beginning of the year) is that most of the voices have either limited sweet spots or not much texture variation. Like the hats, w/o processing, are always gonna be harsh or at their tamest dirty as fvck.
I've been considering a purchase of the drumbrute myself and tbh of all the reviews I have read on different websites, This one is the most thorough reviews I have read. What appeals to me is the realtime knob control of individual snares, hats, ect. To me that is a great quality to the machine and appeals to me because I am weird like that. It does make sense that it would ideally come out into its own through FX and modular processing (Arturia seems to be geared toward that very function in every way.) Though that 499.00 price tag does put me in the position to really think on if this is what I really want.

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I've been considering a purchase of the drumbrute myself and tbh of all the reviews I have read on different websites, This one is the most thorough reviews I have read. What appeals to me is the realtime knob control of individual snares, hats, ect. To me that is a great quality to the machine and appeals to me because I am weird like that. It does make sense that it would ideally come out into its own through FX and modular processing (Arturia seems to be geared toward that very function in every way.) Though that 499.00 price tag does put me in the position to really think on if this is what I really want.
Happy to talk to you more about the DrumBrute. I think its a fair price. A couple things to consider--one big thing for me in accepting the DB into my workflow was giving up on the idea that it has 2 kick voices. I'm madly in love with Kick 2 (the 808 style kick) as an actualy kick drum. Quite often I will use either Kick 1, the Zap or any of the other voices as a top kick/click. I will also use the Kick 1 voice to beef up the snare.

The hats, cymbal and snare all take well to a little live tweaking over 16 bars or whatevs. I feel like the hats are going to be love 'em or hate 'em for most people. Personally, I'm aboslutely in love with how dirty, gritty or totally fubar the hats can sound : ) Its a real pleasure to get them slamming and then taming them with further processing.

While I do think most of the voices have limited sweet spots/range, all of them take so, so, SO well to external processing...I can stack an instance of U-he Satin, D16 Devistator and more on each voice and start getting a nice gritty, even gooey drum bus going.

I can see how it isn't for everyone and ideally it won't be my only drummachine. In the same price range if you can own only one, I might go with an Electribe Sampler 2. Between the on board synthesis options and the fact that it handles oneshots nicely its really the best of all worlds. The onboard synthesis and resampling is enough to make it a serious contender as a drum synth.

The TR-8 is a possability, its fun as hell and has some cool options, but ultimately it sequencing options are as limited as the DrumBrute's voices are. At the end of the day I'd rather pay for a sequencer I love. My next experiment is to get the DrumBrute sequencing Battery.

Realistically you could also get an Elektron Machinedrum MKII (no sampling version) for 599 ish probably. I have to say that'll be a serious contender for my next drum machine. I do want another one at some point, but i"m pretty satisifed with what I have right now for percussion.

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Happy to talk to you more about the DrumBrute. I think its a fair price. A couple things to consider--one big thing for me in accepting the DB into my workflow was giving up on the idea that it has 2 kick voices. I'm madly in love with Kick 2 (the 808 style kick) as an actualy kick drum. Quite often I will use either Kick 1, the Zap or any of the other voices as a top kick/click. I will also use the Kick 1 voice to beef up the snare.

The hats, cymbal and snare all take well to a little live tweaking over 16 bars or whatevs. I feel like the hats are going to be love 'em or hate 'em for most people. Personally, I'm aboslutely in love with how dirty, gritty or totally fubar the hats can sound : ) Its a real pleasure to get them slamming and then taming them with further processing.

While I do think most of the voices have limited sweet spots/range, all of them take so, so, SO well to external processing...I can stack an instance of U-he Satin, D16 Devistator and more on each voice and start getting a nice gritty, even gooey drum bus going.

I can see how it isn't for everyone and ideally it won't be my only drummachine. In the same price range if you can own only one, I might go with an Electribe Sampler 2. Between the on board synthesis options and the fact that it handles oneshots nicely its really the best of all worlds. The onboard synthesis and resampling is enough to make it a serious contender as a drum synth.

The TR-8 is a possability, its fun as hell and has some cool options, but ultimately it sequencing options are as limited as the DrumBrute's voices are. At the end of the day I'd rather pay for a sequencer I love. My next experiment is to get the DrumBrute sequencing Battery.

Realistically you could also get an Elektron Machinedrum MKII (no sampling version) for 599 ish probably. I have to say that'll be a serious contender for my next drum machine. I do want another one at some point, but i"m pretty satisifed with what I have right now for percussion.
So I finally got the opportunity to hands on the brutedaddy drum today and it made up my mind for me. It really is everything I could have hoped it to be, I heard what you meant about those fuzzy hats and claps. I took also upon myself to browse the fx on the amp that it was running through and by doing that it only made my desire burn even hotter. If I budget this decision correctly, I'll effectively have it in my clutches by May.

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