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Old 03-01-2013, 04:18 PM   #1
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Korg M1

A guy that lives near me is selling his Korg M1 for $250.. is this a good synth to have? I have the MKXL and it is a bit naff... thinking of selling it.

Does the M1 have MIDI in and out so I can record into Live?

How do I manipulate the oscillators and filters? Through software?

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Old 03-01-2013, 04:33 PM   #2
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Re: Korg M1

First, that would appear to be a decent deal from what I can see people want for them on eBay.

Second, MIDI doesn't send audio. It more than likely has quarter inch audio I/Os for this. From what I read on vintagesynth.com it looks like a full workstation. It may or may not have a third party software editor, but generally speaking...no...you program it from the unit controls/menus.

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EDIT: Have a read about it...sounds like a solid workstation and a really nice keyboard to boot. Think about what you don't like about the MKXL and compare that to the features of the M1...also ask the guy if you could work with it for a few hours or at least 15-30 minutes at his place.

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Re: Korg M1

The M1 is a great synth. You can hear it everywhere in house and garage music.

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Re: Korg M1

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The M1 is a great synth. You can hear it everywhere in house and garage music.
If by synth you mean ROMpler then perhaps you're right, don't know never played one.

Not a synth though...not a synth.

Edit: I don't care what VSE says I stand by my point.

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Re: Korg M1

What do you mean it isn't a synth? lol

Also I produce more ambient/ambient techno/minimal stuff.. so looking for something that can generate great pads and so forth.

Unless you guys have other similar keyboard synths to suggest? if so please DO SUGGEST!!

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Old 03-01-2013, 06:04 PM   #6
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Re: Korg M1

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If by synth you mean ROMpler then perhaps you're right, don't know never played one.

Not a synth though...not a synth.

Edit: I don't care what VSE says I stand by my point.
I've always been confused by the difference between using a sampled waveform and an oscillator. Is there really a difference in the end?

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Re: Korg M1

Like I said I've never played one and I'm not knocking it just mincing words.

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Personally, I don't like ROMplers but many people do.

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Re: Korg M1

I can also have the chance to purchase the Roland D50 or Yamaha PSR 36.. please help!

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Re: Korg M1

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I've always been confused by the difference between using a sampled waveform and an oscillator. Is there really a difference in the end?
Perhaps not.

Okay, here's the deal with me and my personal bias. I have a habit of judging large categories of things by my experience with other things that were similar in nature.

At one point in time I had a Yamaha RS- 7000. The RS-7000 is a ROMpler based groove box. Much like the MC-303 that I also had at one point in time but, I won't even count that now because it's a pile of shit on all fronts. I never got on with the Yamaha. Way too limiting as far as being able to design any sort of sound that was interesting. Everything that came out of it sounded the same.

Like I said the M1 is probably way more capable than either of those boxes. In fact, from reading just right now I can tell that it is, so it might be just fine especially for 250.00.

If given the choice though, I'd always purchase a synth over a ROMpler. That's all I'm saying and what I was really doing back there was mincing words only.

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Re: Korg M1

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I can also have the chance to purchase the Roland D50 or Yamaha PSR 36.. please help!
You're only going to get one part with the D-50 so if timbrallity is a necessity for you look elsewhere, but I've never played this one either, just pointing out a difference in this synth and the MI which gives you 8.

Don't know anything at all about the Yamaha.

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Re: Korg M1

So between the two, the M1 looks to be a winner.. what about this?
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never heard of it.. how does it compare with the M1 you think?

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Re: Korg M1

Okay now we're talking about a jump in price.

How much are you going to drop on the PS 60 if you were to buy it?

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Re: Korg M1

^I guess depending on the box it might be limiting or not. But with a synth you are (presumably) getting multiple oscillators whose wave forms can be combined in different ways...you can switch between wave forms etc.

I'm just curious, and I'm not asking you RFJ, what the difference would be between a rompler and a synth with identical sound shaping options (filters, FX, envelopes etc). Lets say the only difference is the rompler has sampled saw, triangle, and square and you can use two of these at once or double up on one. The other box has two oscillators same wave forms. What's the difference?

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Re: Korg M1

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Okay now we're talking about a jump in price.

How much are you going to drop on the PS 60 if you were to buy it?
$350


also, I just got word that the Yamaha DX7 is selling for $200...

How does the DX7 compare to the D50 ($400) and the M1 ($250)

Looking for pad/synth/lead sounds, LFO, ASDR envelope manipulation and so forth

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Re: Korg M1

The M1 is a rompler synth From what I have heard, the m1 legacy softsynth is very similar in sound and synth engine as the real deal. It has a very extensive engine to sculpt the sound.

I would say the M1 is def. a synth though. It has oscs with selectable waves, which are sample based. But when I think rompler, I think of a device where each preset is a sample with limited sculpting possibilities. Like a proteus or something.

If the m1 was not a synth, then the tempest would also not be a synth, because it has 2 digital sample based oscs.

But what the heck, it's a cool device, no matter what name you put on it.

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Re: Korg M1

a rompler isn't the same as a synth in technical terms but the end result is noise either way.

A rompler with sampled waveforms and ADSR/filters is essentially a subtractive synth as well.

that's about it really.

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Re: Korg M1

I think there was more of a difference between ROMplers and synths back in the early days of digital when those digital keyboards were being compared against old-school analog synthesizers.

But Korg blurred those lines in the '90s with their modeling keyboards, and now with all the VA stuff out there, the lines are further blurred.

However, if you want to get really semantic about it, you can think of a Modular analog system being a synthesizer, and a Casio Tonebank keyboard being a ROMpler. Those would be two examples at the extreme ends of the spectrum.
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Re: Korg M1

So is the Korg M1 worth the $250? is it easy to manipulate the oscillators to create unique sounds? LFO, envelopes etc?

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