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Old 05-30-2016, 04:52 AM   #1
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getting more rhythmic emotional chords

I want to have longer, more effective, more rhythmic chords in my song, more things that make the song sound hip hop, without just including an annoying loud ass bass sound and a more soft chill sound. I really don't know how to do this, I am not really able to just sit down and start playing good sounding things, also most of my stuff lately is programmed in ableton, so I don't have to keep in tempo, everything is quantized already. I like chords like the ones like this guy



I live for things like these for example









listen to whichever ones you want to, but I want to do chords like these.

also I did something like this before in this side of the forum before but the way I worded it made it sound really stupid and it kinda showed people what kind of stupid ass shit I do.
because I hate me and I only really want to show people how much of a piece of shit I am.
(but I try not to show my douchey side)

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Old 05-30-2016, 05:13 AM   #2
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Re: getting more rhythmic emotional chords

mostly those chords are in minor so they are guaranteed to be sad. but i think for that you should try out some diminished or augmented chord progressions that are in a really slow bpm and fiddle around with the other notes that are in the same key or whatever you think sounds good.

hope that helps you out

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Old 05-30-2016, 05:33 AM   #3
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Re: getting more rhythmic emotional chords

d minor is the saddest of the keys

try harmonically progressing by relation of thirds. beethovens largest moments were based on movement by thirds i.e. augmented chords

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Old 05-30-2016, 05:43 AM   #4
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Re: getting more rhythmic emotional chords

The guy in the video you posted pretty much breaks it down. He plays awesome bass chords alongside his beats, sketches out some melodies with his vocal abilities (or lack thereof), and changes his perspective frequently.

I would have recommended the same ideas without even skimming the video; play an instrument, learn theory, and figure out how to make the sounds that you want to make. Getting in tune with your music is a process, but stretching outside of your comfort zone is guaranteed to give you deeper insight.
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Old 05-30-2016, 06:35 AM   #5
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Re: getting more rhythmic emotional chords

min, with 7th and 9th are those classic chill-jazzy vibes

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Old 05-31-2016, 06:56 PM   #6
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Re: getting more rhythmic emotional chords

You should try not self loathing so much

I really do not get the difference between what you post there and the music you have on your soundcloud.

More additional notes playing maybe? Like Chord followed by some notes, do di da da duuu. Just pick notes from chord to start with and then play around those. If you have a midi keyboard it really helps, loop the section where a chord plays, fill in with some notes until it sounds good, edit by hand after.
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Re: getting more rhythmic emotional chords

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listen to whichever ones you want to, but I want to do chords like these.
I skipped through the tracks and they all seem pretty different to me in terms of arrangement so I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "chords"? And what you mean by "more rhythmic"?

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I skipped through the tracks and they all seem pretty different to me in terms of arrangement so I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "chords"? And what you mean by "more rhythmic"?
I mean like having a more often change in the notes.

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Re: getting more rhythmic emotional chords

I'm not sure what you mean, if you want to use more complex chords, Jazz is a good way to go, get yourself a real book with jazz standards, find a few buddies and spend the next year jamming with them.

now listening to your music, I think on some tracks you do have a mixing issue, which can kill the expressivity.

If you quantize everything, this could kill it too

Maybe get yourself some hardware and try a more organic approach to things, use your hands rather than automation and quantization, actuall "do" the music, craft it more.

Your SC has some cool stuff, it's not nearly as bad as your message makes it.

Confidence is also key, believe in yourself, appreciate your own music, and believe you can be the best musician in the world, with the appropriate amount of work and dedication. Because you actually can.
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Old 10-21-2016, 12:51 PM   #13
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Re: getting more rhythmic emotional chords

In terms of creating the chords, I wrote a blog post this week explaining how. A good starting point, and you could develop from there (If you go to edmtips.com it's the latest post).

It doesn't cover the rhythm part, though, but the key to that is syncopation. It keeps the groove rolling along.

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Re: getting more rhythmic emotional chords

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I want to have longer, more effective, more rhythmic chords in my song, more things that make the song sound hip hop, without just including an annoying loud ass bass sound and a more soft chill sound. I really don't know how to do this, I am not really able to just sit down and start playing good sounding things, also most of my stuff lately is programmed in ableton, so I don't have to keep in tempo, everything is quantized already. I like chords like the ones like this guy



I live for things like these for example









listen to whichever ones you want to, but I want to do chords like these.

also I did something like this before in this side of the forum before but the way I worded it made it sound really stupid and it kinda showed people what kind of stupid ass shit I do.
because I hate me and I only really want to show people how much of a piece of shit I am.
(but I try not to show my douchey side)
Before I read "hip -hop" I thought I'd say emotion is supposed to come from you. But in this case, sounds like what we're talking about is a lack of hooks.

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