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Old 25-05-2015, 08:56 PM   #1
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Hi! I was watching a video on the importance of mono vs stereo, and it was mentioned that every instrument is mono (guitars, flutes etc everything), and the sounds that we hear from the resulting reflections of that mono signal from our environment is what makes up the perceived stereo image.

This got me thinking. What if I used mono tracks for every instrument in a project, and routed them to stereo imaging aux send processes (reverb, imagers, delays etc)? By maintaining my dry signal with the sends, would this be a close/accurate representation of the mono signal's reflections that ultimately make up the stereo field in real life? Would this benefit a mix more than conventional means? Also, would it be useful to pan JUST the aux sends?

I haven't tried this out yet. I wanted to get some input first. Let me know what you think!

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Old 25-05-2015, 09:10 PM   #2
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Re: Is this an effective idea for mono mixing?

If you wanted to make everything mono, why couldn't you just record your own sounds into a microphone or design your patches in mono themselves?

Is there even a stereo image IRL, or do we just have two ears? DOES NOT COMPUTE, but I might just be retarded.

Following this topic, BTW. I hope more see it and can shed some light.

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Old 25-05-2015, 09:16 PM   #3
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Re: Is this an effective idea for mono mixing?

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If you wanted to make everything mono, why couldn't you just record your own sounds into a microphone or design your patches in mono themselves?

Is there even a stereo image IRL, or do we just have two ears? DOES NOT COMPUTE, but I might just be retarded.
My goal is to have a distinct mix that sounds great on mono and stereo systems, and I know lots of producers who achieve this marvelously. I've just recently started mixing my drums in mono and they sound fantastic on mono and stereo systems. I'm trying to achieve the same effect with the instruments of my mix without compromising stereo quality but I'm very unsure how this can work. It seems as if very little is covered on the importance of mixing in mono in most beginner guides which simply tell you how hard to EQ and compress, how much reverb to use etc.

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Re: Is this an effective idea for mono mixing?

Explore with your ears and trust em

I guess make sure you know what phase cancelation is?

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Re: Is this an effective idea for mono mixing?

I have always checked in mono going back a few decades.Although more and mroe clubs have gone stereo it is still common practice to check in mono for cancellation issues that pop up.great way to tighten low end up so it does not mask the rest of teh sound spectrum.Also helps for cell phones and other split bases systems.It is also good for pans..learning to to tighten them up adn sound placement in the listening field.Not eveyone will collapse to mono but it is just part of my process and I do not even think about doing it at all I just do it..part of my way..

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Re: Is this an effective idea for mono mixing?

There are (free) plugins you can get that will convert the output of your mix into mono so you can mix in mono. Mixing in mono is a good idea and has helped me a good bit. Check out the HOFA 4U Meter Fader & MS Pan plugin, it's good stuff.
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Hi! I was watching a video on the importance of mono vs stereo, and it was mentioned that every instrument is mono (guitars, flutes etc everything), and the sounds that we hear from the resulting reflections of that mono signal from our environment is what makes up the perceived stereo image.

This got me thinking. What if I used mono tracks for every instrument in a project, and routed them to stereo imaging aux send processes (reverb, imagers, delays etc)? By maintaining my dry signal with the sends, would this be a close/accurate representation of the mono signal's reflections that ultimately make up the stereo field in real life? Would this benefit a mix more than conventional means? Also, would it be useful to pan JUST the aux sends?

I haven't tried this out yet. I wanted to get some input first. Let me know what you think!
That's not entirely true....

The perceived stereo image comes from the fact that we have two ears with space and solid between them, the shape of our ears and the HRTF (head related transfer function)--the acoustical shadows of the shapes of our ears and head, and that our ears and brains can detect timing differences between left and right sides, and that our ears and brains can detect amplitude differences between left and right sides.

And anything heard (especially groups of things) not coming from a single small spot in space is not really a mono source. People who mic instruments know that instruments make sounds from multipe spots. Instruments that have soundboards have them resonanting for example, but a piano's soundboard can be large, it's not just a tiny little single spot.

The person who told you that everything is mono told you an exaggeration which isn't acoustical nor psychoacoustical (relating to the neuropsychology of hearing) truth.

If you want to know more about this, get a book on Psychoacoustics. I had a class in psychoacoustics in college. That's why I know a little bit about it.

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