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Old 04-07-2012, 12:40 AM   #1
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[Dubstep / Cybergrind / Avant-garde] Undogmatic - 4AM

How about something a bit different? A fusion between dubstep and cybergrind?
That's what I've tried to do. Dunno if it'll appease everybody, but well, that's a different story.

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Version 3, some corrections as suggested in the feedback:

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Old 04-07-2012, 02:51 PM   #2
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Re: [Dubstep / Cybergrind / Avant-garde] Undogmatic - 4AM

I like the guitar melodies but that snare at the start and end has way too much reverb you could lower it alot and still get the same effect. I've never really heard cyber grind and I don't think i'd be a fan of it but the transition kind of works. You also might want to tweak the different elements in that drop at ~1:37 to give them their own space as it kind of blends in to one.

Again i don't know the genre so not sure what you were going for haha Good effort though
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:12 PM   #3
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Re: [Dubstep / Cybergrind / Avant-garde] Undogmatic - 4AM

I agree with Masson, the reverb is wayy too much.

I think the song need some heavy mixing, all the elements are very muffled with exception of the snare that hits me in the face, i would try to balance that, pan things around, add some sidechaining to the kick in the "dubstep" part, and in the grind part i miss some high-frequencies in the kick, what is the kick that sounds like a machine gun like all grindcore?? lol

the construction you made is really simple, the "dubstep" and the "cybergrind", both would benefit from some deconstruction.. making the track a little less linear would make it more interesting!

i want to see the evolution of this crazy mix of yours!

best of luck man.

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Old 04-07-2012, 08:50 PM   #4
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Re: [Dubstep / Cybergrind / Avant-garde] Undogmatic - 4AM

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I like the guitar melodies but that snare at the start and end has way too much reverb you could lower it alot and still get the same effect. I've never really heard cyber grind and I don't think i'd be a fan of it but the transition kind of works. You also might want to tweak the different elements in that drop at ~1:37 to give them their own space as it kind of blends in to one.

Again i don't know the genre so not sure what you were going for haha Good effort though

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I agree with Masson, the reverb is wayy too much.

I think the song need some heavy mixing, all the elements are very muffled with exception of the snare that hits me in the face, i would try to balance that, pan things around, add some sidechaining to the kick in the "dubstep" part, and in the grind part i miss some high-frequencies in the kick, what is the kick that sounds like a machine gun like all grindcore?? lol

the construction you made is really simple, the "dubstep" and the "cybergrind", both would benefit from some deconstruction.. making the track a little less linear would make it more interesting!

i want to see the evolution of this crazy mix of yours!

best of luck man.

Thank you both for your suggestions.

The snare drenched in reverb: I'd say I personally love it soaked in reverb instead of just a dry hit, might be because of Scorn's influence, with those hard-ass "in your face" type of snares haha.



But I can try to tweak it down a bit and see how it sounds.
As for panning the different elements in the cybergrind part to give them more room to breathe, yeah I agree, I'll have to tweak them around so there's a bigger soundstage and everything hopefully will sound less muffled.
Thanks again for the suggestions, that way I can improve it.


I've tweaked it a bit now, how about this:

Version 3, some corrections as suggested in the feedback:

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Old 05-07-2012, 04:25 PM   #5
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Re: [Dubstep / Cybergrind / Avant-garde] Undogmatic - 4AM

Just giving a listen to the second version w/o reading previous comments. The drum kit/processing/vibe is great. Guitar is a different touch, really enjoying that. At one point the guitar is quite noisey/distorted. Def. not my usual pint of beer, but well done. I've only recently come across the term cybergrind, but will check out more of it. Seems like a good place to draw influences from for some dubstep.

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:54 PM   #6
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Just giving a listen to the second version w/o reading previous comments. The drum kit/processing/vibe is great. Guitar is a different touch, really enjoying that. At one point the guitar is quite noisey/distorted. Def. not my usual pint of beer, but well done. I've only recently come across the term cybergrind, but will check out more of it. Seems like a good place to draw influences from for some dubstep.

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I figured a lot of people in IDMf don't usually listen to grindcore. It's a relatively small niche. Even a lot of people who listen to metal on a regular basis might not listen to grindcore because it tends to be kinda extreme.

I think it is indeed a good place to draw influences and make some kickass "in your face" dubstep.
Something like this:

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