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Old 28-12-2016, 10:57 AM   #1
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according to this article different key can affect feel, but most sources state that it doesn't affect emotions that much, and reason for this was sightly different tuning in older music

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Old 28-12-2016, 03:27 PM   #2
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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

I think much of this may have to do with instrumentation: a work for viola or flute or soprano can sound quite different between dm and g#m, for example. With a piano or synthesizers this is possibly less of a factor, but still very much in play if other instruments are involved.

In my own work I've found that transposing up or down just a few semitones can often reveal interesting timbral qualities/interplay that otherwise wouldn't have been so apparent. Sometimes there's a definite sweet spot, other times it's less meaningful.
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Old 28-12-2016, 06:24 PM   #3
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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

Bb major: the key every jazz piece ever is composed in because it's easier with the saxophone and trumpet.

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Old 28-12-2016, 11:21 PM   #4
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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

It's BS. It's all relative.
F sounds/is lower than G.
E sounds/is lower than F.
D'oh!
It's the same with A432 vs. A440.

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Old 28-12-2016, 11:29 PM   #5
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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

i discovered that just sole C# sounds more evil than any other note alone, without other notes. what about this ? and its not synth timbre thing, i tested with different synths and different sounds including my piano and bass

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Old 28-12-2016, 11:31 PM   #6
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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

stop taking drugs and browsing the internet.


100% subjective.

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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

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i discovered that just sole C# sounds more evil than any other note alone, without other notes. what about this ? and its not synth timbre thing, i tested with different synths and different sounds including my piano and bass
Yea man...I mean...a I think being into EBM et al. you can appreciate, as I do, a lot of dissonance in a track where as many other people simple can't stand it. Pure torture for them really.

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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

Have you considered D minor, which is the saddest of all keys?
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Old 29-12-2016, 01:00 AM   #10
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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

A lonely E session is sadder tbh.

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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

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i discovered that just sole C# sounds more evil than any other note alone, without other notes. what about this ? and its not synth timbre thing, i tested with different synths and different sounds including my piano and bass
wow, this is science

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Old 29-12-2016, 01:20 AM   #12
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so its subjective ?
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wow, this is science
is it ?

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Old 29-12-2016, 01:30 AM   #13
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Re: key affects feel of the scale, truth or myth ?

Checkout Tesla spirals and the golden ratio.

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ironically or no ?

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Yeah, check them out ironically if you feel like it, be my guest.

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did, and found something interesting, skip to 2:00

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How about no?

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