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Old 30-06-2014, 01:53 PM   #1
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What's the best production tip(s) you've learned/discovered so far?

I'd have to say for me that it was learning to properly use a reference track. It really helped me improve the quality of my mixdowns.

But I'm curious to hear from you guys.

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Old 30-06-2014, 02:02 PM   #2
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Mic placement, gain-staging, low-cutting (or filtering in general), layering, quantization, midi tools and midi plugins, tracker commands, parallel compression...

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Old 30-06-2014, 02:10 PM   #3
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Old 30-06-2014, 02:19 PM   #4
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Old 30-06-2014, 02:26 PM   #5
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Old 30-06-2014, 02:30 PM   #6
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Re: Whats the best production tip you've learned/discovered so far?

Spend your time mixing your track, way too important. Also, try to open up a "pro" track and check it's waveform and compare it to yours. Unless you can get it to at least resemble the pro track, you're doing it wrong.
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Old 30-06-2014, 02:36 PM   #7
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Spend your time mixing your track, way too important. Also, try to open up a "pro" track and check it's waveform and compare it to yours. Unless you can get it to at least resemble the pro track, you're doing it wrong.
What benefit besides maybe...maybe...getting an idea of overall loudness would visually A/B'ing the waveform with a "pro" track give? I guess you might be able to get an idea of arrangement too but I don't see what benefit that would be either to be honest.

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Old 30-06-2014, 02:40 PM   #8
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Old 30-06-2014, 02:52 PM   #9
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Just make music and stop trying to sound like something else. If you like it then go for it. Never compromise because you think that this wouldn't sound right for this scene or something to that effect.
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Old 30-06-2014, 03:04 PM   #10
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Tempo dynamics and careful EQing of timbres.
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Old 30-06-2014, 03:09 PM   #11
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Fuck the rules.

Obviously that's taken with a grain of salt.
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Old 30-06-2014, 03:15 PM   #12
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for example, take these 2 waveforms, top is my track, bottom is pro track, something I'm doing is clearly wrong? Even though the pro track has similar risers/fade ins/filters ins etc?...

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Other than the "pro" track being louder what exactly is that telling you?

Nothing "wrong" with not being as loud as somebody else, ya know?

Edit: that pro track is also mastered. Are you doing your own mastering or is yours an unmastered .wav?

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Old 30-06-2014, 03:21 PM   #14
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Re: What's the best production tip(s) you've learned/discovered so far?

Im going to have to agree with RFJ, I dont see how looking at the waveforms tells you anything, really. Except, perhaps, a bit about dynamics.

Im curious what you think is wrong based on looking at the waveforms? Why do you care what it looks like, its music, use your ears : )

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Old 30-06-2014, 03:21 PM   #15
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Mastering.

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Old 30-06-2014, 03:22 PM   #16
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The peaks in the pro track are more or less symmetrical, whereas mine are all over the place, more often than not way more to the positive than to negative, giving way less headroom to fool around in.
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: while I do agree mastering "improves" the way things look/sound, I doubt it improves _so_ much to be so apparent when looking at waveforms. After all, isn't mastering just some finishing touches to the track?

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Old 30-06-2014, 03:29 PM   #17
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Are you using any sort of peak limiter / compressor to catch your peaks in the final process?

Edit: Also mastering can drastically change the look of your waveform, especially if you are using a pro track for reference because that ME is probably mastering for maximum loudness.

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Old 30-06-2014, 03:32 PM   #18
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Are you using any sort of peak limiter / compressor to catch your peaks in the final process?
I am. The thing is, with the pro track, when I'm listening to it, the first 30-40 seconds have a kick, (muffled) bass, and the synth, not very much unlike mine, in regards to volume/freq open/etc... but still, his waveform is full blown in that section, whereas mine is clearly visible to where the sound is filtered off, muffled, or whatever.
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Well without hearing the two tracks I'd say it's most likely due to mastering.See my previous post edit.

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Well without hearing the two tracks I'd say it's most likely due to mastering.See my previous post edit.
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can somehow magically transform my waveform from something like the top one in the pic to somehow even remotely resembling something like the bottom one, I would gladly pay him way more than his regular fee for mastering is. Anyhow, I doubt it has all to do with mastering, I still think proper mixing and EQing while still composing a track is still vital to a track's perceived quality. The thing is, a user that has to raise his amp/headphone/computer volume to properly hear a track and then drastically lower it when the next one in his playlist/clicklist hits, it's bad. It probably unconsciously lets him know that ok, that track was "bad".

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