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Old 23-12-2016, 01:12 PM   #1
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The reality of war.

Humans will never stop waging war on one another until a clear, inhuman threat ultimately arises. Did I use my comma properly?

So much of our fantasy and fiction has consisted of inhuman, alien and monstrous entities threatening to wipe us out. Until such a thing is a reality we will continue to fight each other.

If we never encounter such an otherworldly threat we will ultimately create this threat ourselves. Be it A.I. most likely.

I think it's pretty neat.

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Old 23-12-2016, 01:25 PM   #2
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Re: The reality of war.

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So much of our fantasy and fiction is consisted of inhuman, alien and monstrous entities threatening to wipe us out.
Best sentence.
None of those things have ever yet manifest.
We're basically just fucking bored of our own existence.
Release the files already.
People have an easier time imagining being quickly and cleanly destroyed by an overpowering thing or being, that they have no chance of defeating or defending against.
Nobody wants to think about struggling to survive on the edge of a pitiful life for years in a concentration camp because we didn't pay enough taxes to defend our shit against another nation whose entire being is based on the continuation of their state at the expense of the individual.
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Old 23-12-2016, 01:43 PM   #3
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Re: The reality of war.

Our deathly fantasies and fiction are an evolutionary anomaly of basic defense mechanisms built into our brains. We've come to a point in human history where we are safer, healthier, more productive and greatly more in control than any life form on Earth. Yet many of us still live in fear of the worst that could happen.

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Old 23-12-2016, 01:47 PM   #4
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Re: The reality of war.

Nothing wrong with that.
WWIII is currently looking closer than it has in my lifetime.
What's your point?
It's a shame?
We're wasting our time?
Meh, people have always done that, as you suggest.
Don't do it is the answer you're looking for.
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Old 23-12-2016, 02:48 PM   #5
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Re: The reality of war.

What's our definition of WWIII? Is there a timetable to define a WW?

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Old 23-12-2016, 02:55 PM   #6
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Re: The reality of war.

Who are you? Be the you that this, that or the other who claims you could be such a thing for a payment of $49.00 a month, Or maybe be the you, that one that decided the most successful direction for the human race can progressively be reduced to just being able to work shit out, ok girl!!

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Old 23-12-2016, 02:59 PM   #7
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OK.
Already wasted enough time on this malaise merry-go-round.
I hope you have a good Christmas.
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Old 23-12-2016, 03:05 PM   #8
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Re: The reality of war.

I've purposely fallen off every merry-go-round i've ever been on.

Because it's funny and more interesting that not falling off of it.

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Old 23-12-2016, 05:06 PM   #9
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Re: The reality of war.

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I've purposely fallen off every merry-go-round i've ever been on.

Because it's funny and more interesting that not falling off of it.

In other words, you've landed on your head more times than you care to or can remember. That explains a lot.

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Old 23-12-2016, 06:15 PM   #10
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Re: The reality of war.

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Humans will never stop waging war on one another until a clear, inhuman threat ultimately arises. Did I use my comma properly?

So much of our fantasy and fiction has consisted of inhuman, alien, and monstrous entities threatening to wipe us out. Until such a thing is a reality we will continue to fight each other.
That first comma is okay but I think very unnecessary. However, I've put a tiny little Oxford comma (in the quote) where I think it's important, because I will NOT fucking stand for this.
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Old 23-12-2016, 06:28 PM   #11
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Re: The reality of war.

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Our deathly fantasies and fiction are an evolutionary anomaly of basic defense mechanisms built into our brains. We've come to a point in human history where we are safer, healthier, more productive and greatly more in control than any life form on Earth. Yet many of us still live in fear of the worst that could happen.
I don't think this is right, but I think lolirl is on the right lines when he said we're bored of our own existence.

These "fantasies" are much more likely a product of the boredom. Most fiction, be it novels, TV, movies or whatever, is at its core often trying to simulate extremely human things on a scale that is larger than you would encounter in real life. Some fiction examines its characters, but a lot of it is designed so you follow the characters and feel for them, to help with the immersive experience. It can depend what type of genres or storytelling we're talking about here, but in a nutshell, these deathly fantasies are a character's challenge, and they create development of character.

I haven't watched Jaws for a long time, but as an example, people might be afraid of the sharks and it might make for a fun/scary movie about a common fear, but our friend facing his own fears about the water is what we're invested in on a human level.

I've heard a lot of people say they watch horror movies, and find it funny in these movies when people die. Probably because so many horror movies nowadays have bland characters, you don't care about them, they don't resonate with the audience as something that could be relatable to your own human existence. They die. You're very aware they're fictional. You laugh.



TL;DR - People first, all your weird garbage monsters later.
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Old 23-12-2016, 07:39 PM   #12
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Oxford comma
This came up a couple of times recently and for the life of me I couldn't remember what it was called.
It made me think of you and I loi.
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Old 24-12-2016, 12:07 AM   #13
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Re: The reality of war.

This thread and the OP is like a game of Ennuigi.

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Re: The reality of war.

I picture myself being the main hero to destroy the alien race while having an incurable cancer, and taking an IED to the face. Only to get eaten in my sleep by millions of ants years later.
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Old 24-12-2016, 07:23 PM   #15
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Re: The reality of war.

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The reality of humans is that we are animals first. We like to think we are more but just see what we become when we are faced with mere survival.

So yes war will always be inevitable because power is at stake.

It's not impossible that we will one day, be it a thousand years from now, be entirely peaceful. Whatever that entails.

There is always hope for utopia in the very long run.
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Old 24-12-2016, 08:56 PM   #16
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Re: The reality of war.

This universe is ~14.000.000.000 years old, we've been investigating it for some ~4000 years..

This graph shows you how much we're likely to know..

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