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Old 07-04-2014, 01:16 AM   #1
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Would Avicii be famous without this guy?


What I took from this interview was that Ash found Tim Berg and created "Avicii" and without him there would be no avicii.

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Old 07-04-2014, 01:29 AM   #2
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>Modern artists are created by marketing team.
>Breaking news.


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Old 07-04-2014, 01:40 AM   #3
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If you watched the video Ash basically stumbled across a few unfinished tracks avicii made and contacted him and basically pushed him to produce and taught him how to dj and did almost everything for him. The kid didnt even have a solid finished song!

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Old 07-04-2014, 01:46 AM   #4
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If you watched the video Ash basically stumbled across a few unfinished tracks avicii made and contacted him and basically pushed him to produce and taught him how to dj and did almost everything for him. The kid didnt even have a solid finished song!
So, nothing new?

This is how most pop-stars are made. You take someone who is a blank slate and isn't too ugly, and then you build them up to be whatever appeals to kids. Then you sell him like it's nobody's business.

Also, teaching people to DJ is not very hard. There's a play button inside Ableton. Not that this is some new tech, unless you think Britney Spears was actually singing live and not lipsyncing.

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Old 08-04-2014, 11:07 AM   #5
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Kid does something that someone believes has promise. Gets help achieving that. Succeeds.

In itself, nothing bad here.

Whether the music is good or not is another thing. Oh wait, music is subjective.

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Old 08-04-2014, 11:39 AM   #6
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Re: Would avicii be famous without this guy?

I actually found that guys story quite impressive (Ash Pournouri). He seems pretty dedicated and persistant. Went through a few failures but came out on top afterwards.

http://elitedaily.com/music/music-news/avicii-manager/

Even though I do not like the music that came out at the end of it I can still respect the effort and persistance (and some luck probably) that went into the process of getting it all started.

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Old 08-04-2014, 11:45 AM   #7
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Yeah, my friend runs a very specialist label with some really out there music but still has to square it as financially viable to make enough money each month for his business not to fold so he doesn't lose his house and have to go and do a shitty job for a wanker he hates.
People seem to think that just because he's not pedaling pop music that it's all not for profit or he's some rich guy who just puts this stuff out as a labour of love or something, lol.
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Old 09-04-2014, 06:31 PM   #8
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Im not hating on Ash or Avicii, I was just trying to think where would avicii be if he didn't get picked up by Ash? Would he be one of us lurking around here? Makes you wonder how important a manager actually is...

Pretty much by now everyone knows that "making good music" isn't enough these days. To be successful enough to make a living, you need much more.

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Old 09-04-2014, 06:55 PM   #9
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Im not hating on Ash or Avicii, I was just trying to think where would avicii be if he didn't get picked up by Ash? Would he be one of us lurking around here? Makes you wonder how important a manager actually is...

Pretty much by now everyone knows that "making good music" isn't enough these days. To be successful enough to make a living, you need much more.
Making good music has never been enough. If you want to be widely known that is. I am sure there have been many amazing musicians the world has never heard of because for whatever reasons their music never made it past the county line.

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Old 09-04-2014, 08:15 PM   #10
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Re: Would avicii be famous without this guy?

What I found most interesting about that whole thing when I listened yesterday was that they seem to have built an empire mainly releasing single tracks. It was all, a track this, a track that, it takes a while for a track to blah blah blah....

Same thing with that fucking tieso one too that I listened to just after. I do much driving for a living so all that was born out of throw it on and hit the gas.

Single tracks & branding rule the day over there it seems.

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Old 09-04-2014, 09:19 PM   #11
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What I found most interesting about that whole thing when I listened yesterday was that they seem to have built an empire mainly releasing single tracks. It was all, a track this, a track that, it takes a while for a track to blah blah blah....

Same thing with that fucking tieso one too that I listened to just after. I do much driving for a living so all that was born out of throw it on and hit the gas.

Single tracks & branding rule the day over there it seems.
its instant gratification.

who wants to like...wait 1 or 2 years for somebody to put effort into an album?

I MEAN FUCK THAT LOL
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:27 PM   #12
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I think good music is enough. You just might not get the maximum amount of money out of it without proper marketing/management/etc.
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I think good music is enough. You just might not get the maximum amount of money out of it without proper marketing/management/etc.
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:23 PM   #14
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Maybe he could if he promoted properly
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:15 AM   #15
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I wonder why Ash is credited as a producer on all of avicii's songs...

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Old 10-04-2014, 09:29 AM   #16
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naive.
I get the feeling there is some sense of bitterness and grudge within this. Everyone gets lucky on some occasion. No need for hating.
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I get the feeling there is some sense of bitterness and grudge within this. Everyone gets lucky on some occasion. No need for hating.
Actually, I'd say about 1 in a few million will get lucky. Hard work and dedication is also required (if you want to make it big) but will only get you so far.

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I get the feeling there is some sense of bitterness and grudge within this. Everyone gets lucky on some occasion. No need for hating.
Whatever. I'm still right.

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Pretty much by now everyone knows that "making good music" isn't enough these days. To be successful enough to make a living, you need much more.
"Talent" was never enough, and the same is true for success in every walk of life .
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I wonder why Ash is credited as a producer on all of avicii's songs...
I read somewhere he has alot to say about the tracks so he is the producer :-B

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