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Superye 04-07-2014 10:12 PM

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FunkMasterBrown 04-07-2014 11:29 PM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
Trick question? Im pretty sure neither exist

twilitez 05-07-2014 04:05 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
You cant even genre anymore?

banu_musa 02-08-2014 10:11 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
It's all fridge music isn't it?

Mctoast 28-06-2016 04:06 PM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
Chillwave is the shit, but chillstep, that's just shit, completely different and versatile genres identified with distinct characteristics and soundscapes.

I hope this helped.

bIOtAPEstry 02-09-2016 01:00 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
Chill step.... Chillwave... EDM ..... Trap.....

None of these are genres really.

Some cool kids on the scene (that don't really understand music properly yet ;) ) have a track that gets a bit popular in their scene. so they put 'chill wave'.... or 'EDM' or 'Trap' for the genre tittle on soundcloud. All of a sudden a new 'genre' of music is born overnight. Purely because soundcloud gives us the option to right out own genres with our tracks.

I like the idea of having custom genres. Although it seems to of giving some producers the illusion that they have been the pioneer behind whole new genre and movement of music.

This is nonsense of course. chill step is just a trendy name for ambient dubstep. Every 'Trap' song I herd had the same drop and in its essence is just an unfinished dubstep song where they forgot to put all the mids in the mix. just subs and kicks mainly using the same formula again and again.

As for 'EDM' well.... this bothers me the most as EDM stands for Electronic Dance Music. Really? Electronic dance music is a bit vague don't you think?? So that covers anything release for music made on a computer that happened in the last 30years? Great googlymoogly.

All this proves is that most of the left brain right wing brown noses that work in the whore we call the music industry have no fucking idea about music what so ever.

Renaming a genre isn't really creating a new style of music.

My next release is going to be genre titled: Psychedelic Nano Doom Fusion :P

Thoughts?

relic 02-09-2016 01:21 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bIOtAPEstry (Post 1412062)
Chill step.... Chillwave... EDM ..... Trap.....

None of these are genres really.

Some cool kids on the scene (that don't really understand music properly yet ;) ) have a track that gets a bit popular in their scene. so they put 'chill wave'.... or 'EDM' or 'Trap' for the genre tittle on soundcloud. All of a sudden a new 'genre' of music is born overnight. Purely because soundcloud gives us the option to right out own genres with our tracks.

I like the idea of having custom genres. Although it seems to of giving some producers the illusion that they have been the pioneer behind whole new genre and movement of music.

This is nonsense of course. chill step is just a trendy name for ambient dubstep. Every 'Trap' song I herd had the same drop and in its essence is just an unfinished dubstep song where they forgot to put all the mids in the mix. just subs and kicks mainly using the same formula again and again.

As for 'EDM' well.... this bothers me the most as EDM stands for Electronic Dance Music. Really? Electronic dance music is a bit vague don't you think?? So that covers anything release for music made on a computer that happened in the last 30years? Great googlymoogly.

All this proves is that most of the left brain right wing brown noses that work in the whore we call the music industry have no fucking idea about music what so ever.

Renaming a genre isn't really creating a new style of music.

My next release is going to be genre titled: Psychedelic Nano Doom Fusion :P

Thoughts?

Id actually argue EDM is a good, general umbrella term. If you say "House" to most people, they dunno wtf you are talking about. Maybe it is broad, but the term EDM is descriptive. Most people who like House cant even tell where it got its name :P

Oatbag 02-09-2016 03:21 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
Its all fucking techno shit anyways fag.

Narukami Music 02-09-2016 03:46 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bIOtAPEstry (Post 1412062)
As for 'EDM' well.... this bothers me the most as EDM stands for Electronic Dance Music. Really? Electronic dance music is a bit vague don't you think?? So that covers anything release for music made on a computer that happened in the last 30years? Great googlymoogly.

I dislike the term "EDM", or at least I used to. Not because of what it meant but because of the people associated with it. As Relic said, EDM is the perfect description of general dance music because it means what it means. But the people who often use the most are the same people who called any electronic music "Techno". Plus, it's often associated with the bro, Avicii, Steve Aoki scene, which I'm not a fan of.

I'm such a fucking douche.

liquid_air 02-09-2016 04:20 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
To the extent that genre labels are helpful in defining expectations as to what things sound like I find them helpful. These days I'm often not sure it's not a marketing gimmick.

I like the EDM label. It's useful in that it indicates a decent probability that I won't like it.

bIOtAPEstry 02-09-2016 05:50 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
Most people say they like house music because every club in the world is playing a shit watered down version of the genre on repeat every week.

oh and maybe some dub step.

Why is the mainstream so shit? The have all the money and the resources and the come out with the worst music.

stray medicine 02-09-2016 06:29 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
"Let's see here... let's make some dubstep... that actually has some higher synth pads on it... HOLY SHIT THIS NEEDS TO BE A WHOLE NEW GENRE BECAUSE ITS SOOOOO DIFFERENT"

stray medicine 02-09-2016 06:30 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
also fuck chillwave
that's all I have to say about that

bIOtAPEstry 02-09-2016 09:57 AM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stray medicine (Post 1412108)
also fuck chillwave
that's all I have to say about that

wtf is chilly wave anyway?

Is it the name of some kind of dressing for my stir fry?

and chill step.... i dont understand how. big fucking drums on ambient soundscapes.

'oh thats such a nice soothing pad sound on that Bm7 chord (second inversion obviously ;) )' 'now have some booming arena dub step kick. snare. kick. snare' - Unbelievable

electrodevo 02-09-2016 12:48 PM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bIOtAPEstry (Post 1412062)
Chill step.... Chillwave... EDM ..... Trap.....
None of these are genres really.

One of the problems with music is marketing. If you don't market, there is no chance of success. :P Kind of sucks, but that's the way it is unfortunately. People like to listen to music for certain moods.

"Chill" genres come in part to separate the aggressive oriented music from the soft and mellow stuff. Almost every electronic genre has had this, in the past it got more the "ambient" tag instead of "chill", but it was the same concept. All chillstep is, is a classification that shows that your mix / tracks don't have your super-aggressive drops and harsh brostep type sounds, and instead has more floaty stuff over the same half time beats.

There are worse tags. Remember the "intelligent drum and bass" tag several years ago? What's so "intelligent" about taking D&B and mixing it with mellow jazz, "rare groove" (translation: deep 70s funk tracks most people don't know about) influences, and ambient pads? I don't know. "Atmospheric drum and bass" is another tag for that style that's better. And again, all that tag means is that you'll be dropped a bunch of chill D&B stuff in a set, with none of the darker heavier stuff. If you want the heavier stuff, there's names for that too ("neurofunk" being a genre tag for such stuff for instance).

Incidentally, "chillwave" is a term invented by the sarcastic Hipster Runoff blog as I understand, the same blog that brought you the term "slutwave" for the Kesha / Katy Perry / Miley Cyrus sort of trend. I sort of wonder why the name stuck. :P Indie rock has been fascinated for drenching their tracks in reverb and using synths for, oh, I don't know, ever since the algorithmic reverb was created? Seriously, we already had the "dreampop" term for several decades, that's not a bad term IMHO and a pretty good description of chillwave too, I don't know why we need a new term. But oh well.

As far as "trap" is concerned, that's a Southern (US) hip hop term that got stolen by dubstep producers, that's why it may not make much sense. "Trap" in hip hop refers to a certain thing about the drug dealing life style they like to rap a lot about a lot; whatever, musically it is just a style extension of ye olde Southern hip hop techniques (see "crunk" and whatnot). At some point, Southern hip hop moved away from using a lot of big brass type sounds, and started aligning their fascination with Autotune-robot voices with more synthetic type leads and pads and deeper use of "808s", especially 808 hihat trills. So I guess a new name was needed to distinguish Lil Jon tracks from Future tracks. For some reason, dubstep producers started borrowing from this trend by taking the 808 BD and the trills, adding drops, and removing the rap. However, no new genre name was formed out of this, they called it the same thing. Thus, Diplo and Chief Keef now make the "same style" of music name wise. Funny, eh?

bIOtAPEstry 02-09-2016 01:34 PM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
hehe, i know exactly the type your talking about. that kind of hipsters that wear beats.headphones.

because they think it helps them get a 'good' mix. :neo:

DOLGAP 03-09-2016 01:02 PM

Re: What's the difference between chillwave and chillstep?
 
I heard people calling Skream as chillstep. I guess plebs call the normal dubstep as chillstep because it's not the aggressivily modulated distorted robotsex crap.


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