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Djreject 23-07-2012 03:45 PM

How do you people use Max/Msp
 
Hey I just tought it would be nice for everyone to share their ways of using Max, I know some people are not willing to share their trade secrets, so let's just not get into deep technicalities.


I mainly use Max as a way to program complex midi messages that are assigned to macros in Live.


everything else is just too complex for me (synth programing and effect processing)

CounterVulture 23-07-2012 05:50 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
I have not yet integrated it into recordings, but I use it for a few things.

1) Making audio plugins for effecting audio, which can be used to resample files in max or max4live. These are fft fx and sampling effects (like stutters/grainshifters/delays, etc.)

2) Prototyping/designing interface and function of sampling effects. I am trying to develop some hardware stutter effects and its far easier to try out designs in max than in hardware.

3) Doing live visuals and other sorts of video art, which may not have been what you had in mind.

oly 23-07-2012 06:34 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
I don't really use max, just the runtime for some monome applications, but i use puredata. Mainly for control routing for touchOSC interfaces and that sort of thing. i haven't had the patience to make any sort of synth or effects.

I/O_Madness 24-07-2012 01:36 AM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
I made my own version of peg solitaire once. I also use it for messing with samples

Djreject 24-07-2012 11:09 AM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
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Originally Posted by I/O_Madness (Post 924469)
I made my own version of peg solitaire once.



Nice I heard about it for some very basic gaming but never saw anything concrete.

I/O_Madness 24-07-2012 11:32 AM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
It wasn't anything fancy, but you don't need anything fancy really. I can upload a runtime if anyone's interested. Other than that I made a simple synth controlled by the computer keyboard, and I'm sort of still working on a utility to automate sample edits.

CounterVulture 24-07-2012 01:35 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
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Originally Posted by I/O_Madness (Post 924708)
I'm sort of still working on a utility to automate sample edits.

This sounds interesting. Automate them how? You talking about live or rendered editing?

I/O_Madness 24-07-2012 08:10 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
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Originally Posted by CounterVulture (Post 924764)
This sounds interesting. Automate them how? You talking about live or rendered editing?

I want to do something for editing, but I also have a live version. I need to work on the scaling of MIDI CC to it, as CC only have 128 values and this could use a lot more. I can use it with a mouse and it's not a problem, maybe I can find a neat controller to use with it.

oly 24-07-2012 08:14 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
I/O, look for some kind of OSC controller, I believe the resolution is far far higher than on midi for OSC data.

I/O_Madness 02-08-2012 01:09 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
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Originally Posted by CounterVulture (Post 924764)
This sounds interesting. Automate them how? You talking about live or rendered editing?

It works by having a loop that repeats indefinitely, then you can control the start point, end point, and speed. I have a live version set up, although I'd like to rewrite it with gen~ as with just max it's limited to ms segments rather than sample segments. It works alright though. I was working on a rendering version of it as well, which I'd like to do more work on, as I enjoy working like that. I like to have every movement defined in the program, though I also appreciate the need to be able to mess around with it in a more hands on way. i prefer defining movements in a general way.

perezslime 02-08-2012 10:23 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
I use max for loads of things really. Generally I try and make sure everything I make can be used live but that doesnt always work out...
The main thing I have been working on lately is a 4 voice sample player, with a number of effects included, designed to be used for live performance and loosely based on the korg kaoss pad. I cant post links yet but if anyone is interested you can just google "skaoss"

I also like to use it to create algorithmic programs, various effects and sequencers, and recently created a large sequencer program which allows you to arrange/sequence patterns of smaller sequencer patches... this is very much still a work in progress though....

Oh and drum machines.... so many drum machines :)

Dataf1ow 02-08-2012 10:50 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
I use it for a variety of things.

My most polished patch takes the launchpads 8 rows and turns them into 8 "sliders" that can be mapped to anything in Ableton Live, includes LED feedback, adjustable interpolation, and you can have 4 instances loaded up per Launchpad thus extending the control functionality of the Launchpad.

I do live visual generation with Jitter for VJing or audio/visual performance.

I use it to get data from an Arduino that's reading touch sensors on my bass to control processing in Live.

I made a huge patch that analyzes incoming audio, and resynthesizes it based on the eight most prominent frequency bands. This also contains a step sequencer type thing to control the eight voices. Includes LED feedback on the launchpad.

Other various sample fuckery, sound mangling things. It's rad to the MAX (get it?)

lebeux 02-08-2012 11:31 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
To nerd out like a motherfucker for weeks creating basic stuff that is available everywhere for free and with more features.

Isn't that what it's for?

Dataf1ow 02-08-2012 11:41 PM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
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Originally Posted by lebeux (Post 931343)
To nerd out like a motherfucker for weeks creating basic stuff that is available everywhere for free and with more fearures.

Isn't that what it's for?

I do tend to laugh at people that make synths/drum machines with it. It is for making things that aren't available/professionally made.

I/O_Madness 03-08-2012 03:21 AM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
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Originally Posted by Dataf1ow (Post 931347)
I do tend to laugh at people that make synths/drum machines with it. It is for making things that aren't available/professionally made.

Sometimes you need a program like those that are freely available but that do something a certain way that other programs don't, or have a certain feature that others don't. Plus programming everything yourself is neat.

perezslime 03-08-2012 09:29 AM

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I do tend to laugh at people that make synths/drum machines with it. It is for making things that aren't available/professionally made.
Have to agree with I/O_Madness on this, just because there are drum machines and synths available doesnt mean that they do everything you want them to.... in fact if you think about it, if any drum machine/synth was actually able to do everything you could possibly want it to do then surely it would have made all other similar plugins etc redundant...
there is also a lot of benefit to be gained by trying to recreate existing effects, synths, and sequencers-trying to reverse engineer these things is a great way to learn how they work!

lebeux 03-08-2012 09:52 AM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
yeah, obviously my little joke is a bit unfair, as all jokes are, but if it doesn't ring true at all you're probably in denial

I/O_Madness 03-08-2012 11:06 AM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
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Originally Posted by lebeux (Post 931605)
yeah, obviously my little joke is a bit unfair, as all jokes are, but if it doesn't ring true at all you're probably in denial

Just because you can't program anything original, doesn't mean it's not possible to do something that's original.

I/O_Madness 03-08-2012 11:11 AM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
Also those other programs aren't programmed in Max/MSP, different methods of making it work are required. Max/MSP is a PROGRAMMING environment, saying it isn't worth trying to make a drum machine or sequencer in it is like saying it's not worth making a hip hop song in any audio program because people already came up with hip hop, or it's not worth writing a song about a feeling because other songs have been written already.

Programs don't all work one way. You need to find out how to describe what is happening with the language you're using, which allows for you to understand more of what's going on.

lebeux 03-08-2012 11:44 AM

Re: How do you people use Max/Msp
 
a.k.a. nerding out

you're taking my post way too defensively man


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